Player Features and Ideas Discussion

POS Bashing sucks. Takes a long time to actual take down a POS which is just crazy.

So I was thinking, any POS with out a force field is vulnerable to attacks.

So since CCP have introduced their little mini games then a suggestion would be.

Shoot at POS until Shield reaches 75%,
Then minigame can be used to hack into POS.

Each time mini game is succesful shield is reduced by 10%.
At 75% mark the game can be attempted 3 times only.

Shoot POS until 50% again mini game which if succesful reduced by 15% (more vulnerable)
Again can only be attempted 3 times.

Then hit 25% (if Stront) then POS goes in re-inforcement. If not then keep shooting.

Then rinse and repeat for the armour and hull.

% of reduction is just an example and may not be a true reflection of what CCP may consider if they even consider fixing POS bashing at all anytime soon.

Cheers

i take it you're killing high sec pos that are offline so just get into a oracle start shooting and go to the pub when you come back you find a dead pos!

While grinding POSes and structures is a drag and CCP has stated that POS mechanics are up for review at some point "soon", I don't think this is a good idea. It's too contrived and adds complexity where none is needed.

And I say this as someone who's corp bashes offline POSes for pay.


Laser 'Geddons do it better. Nearly 1200 DPS in AFK mode, just a hair over 1400 if I'm at the keyboard.


OP's idea only applies to offline POSes, but you do raise an interesting point. Who gets to do the minigame, and do their hacking skills apply?

POS bashing is fine, nice balance for now. what needs a revisit is the gun and defense.

Thanks for the comments/trolls

The whole idea is just to reduce the grind aspect of POS bashing. It goes without saying the more makes ahave in fleet and ship type etc makes a dull job quicker.

So who gets to do the mini game. Perhaps have it as a fleet roll like booster/boss. Or maybe a Wing or Squad commander can be responsible.

Yes hacking skills should effect it. Also maybe have to have a module fitted.

I don't think it would make it too complex as these components already exist in game.

Just a method to reduce the bashing time it takes to kill POS.

But hey probably already been said before. CCP really read and consider suggestions anyway right ....

So this is made a little clearer because some read more into a block of text than others let me throw some numbers...

Amarr Medium POS HP:

Shield - 20 000 000
Armour - 5 000 000
Hull - 4 000 000

So a fleet finds POS, look it is offline and there is no force field, lets start killing to see who comes and play.
So the blaps away until the shield HP is reduce by 25% of the 20 000 000 HP which = 15 000 000 HP.

So at this point Mini Game booster in fleet gets to start hacking away.
If unsuccessful after three attempts they declare they suck at mini games and fleet continues to shoot slowly taking reducing the 15 000 000 HP to get to 50% where they can try again.

If they are a hacking genius the shield gets reduced by 10%
15 000 000 - 10% (1 500 000) = 13 500 000 HP still to go and lets keep on shooting

So fleet continues to pew pew a stick until now the shield is reduced to 50% of its original 20 000 000 HP = 10 000 000.

Again the hacker starts to hack away. If they screw up after three attempts, sorry lets keep shooting.

If they are successful the shield is reduced by a further 15%.
Therefore 10 000 000 - 15% (1 500 000) = 8 500 000 HP so just keep on shooting.

The shooting at an object that doesnt move continues until shield reaches its normal 25% of original 20 000 000 HP to see if it gets reinforced.

If strontium is available POS goes into reinforcement. Normal situation, just smile and way boys come back tomorrow when stront runs out and maybe we will get a fight.

If however is the POS has no Strontium then guess what you just keep shooting.

Once the shield HP is all done (that is 0%) the above logic then gets applied to the armour HP. Guess what, you guessed it when the armour HP is reduces to 0%, then apply again to hull.

However if POS is strontium feed then wait until reinforcement runs out then continue process as described.

OK TL:DR - talking about something that is not even going to get a look in.

Percentages would be as CCP determines to be best. It will be a balance with a fleet, is it quicker to just keep on shooting or play mini game to quickly knock out HP.

May find after three attempts it might have been just quicker to shoot.

I would just like to see a class of ship introduced that's designed to bash POSes.

Basically t2 version of tier 3 ships that use Bastion.

Very high DPS and tank.
Ewar immune while in bastion.

Very poor tracking/ exp velocity in exchange for significant range.


Basically, high damage at max range, ewar immune, and tanky. Designed for hammering structures and capitals, but very weak against sub-cap ships, thus requiring a support fleet of sub-caps for security reasons.


Edit.... This of them as sub-cap dreads.

Sooo, your strategy for dealing with POSes in high sec, is ignoring them and allowing them to freely produce whatever they want, unrestricted?

Hmm...

You want a T2 battleship equivalent of a dreadnaught. I think you're more likely to see CCP allow dreads in hisec than release a subcap hull that makes dreads obsolete.

POSes in hisec are supposed to enjoy a certain amount of security. Large ones in particular should not be trivial affairs to assault. The tools already exist to take down large, well-defended, hisec POSes: grab a dozen friends in marauders or spider-tanking battleships and go to town.

Nowhere near the equivalent of a dread. I was just using that as an example, as they would be like a mini-dread.

Maybe 2k damage, long range, tanky, but terrible application, at least on mobile targets.