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Corporation shares on the market.

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XeX Znndstrup
#1 - 2014-12-02 20:04:18 UTC
Hi,

Sorry if this subject has been solved.

Eve is good for trading but i don't see anything about shares exchanges.
Why ?

It could bring :
- money for corporations,
- a way for corporations to broadcast to new members,
- a new trading dimension.

Thanks for your answers.

Regards.

Judge of The Law Organization and President of Stellar Order.

"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light". John Milton, Lost Paradise.

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Artemis Scat
Thebes Guild
#2 - 2014-12-02 22:12:59 UTC
Because the current share system is too vulnerable to being taken advantage of. Shares can be too easily bought up when released, resulting in corp theft.
XeX Znndstrup
#3 - 2014-12-04 20:09:40 UTC
It's possible to deal with this if only a part of all shares can be bought.

Judge of The Law Organization and President of Stellar Order.

"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light". John Milton, Lost Paradise.

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Eldwinn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-12-04 20:39:16 UTC
i'd rather stay private.
XeX Znndstrup
#5 - 2014-12-30 11:31:28 UTC
Shares purchase is a part of the background story even in Evelopedia.
Serpentis took control of Outer Ring Excavations with shares for example.

It's another realistic way to take control.
And not only with war power.

CSM, please, could you study and propose to CCP to plan the ability to :
- buy/sell NPC shares,
- buy/sell PC shares ?

Thanks for your answers.

Best regards.

Judge of The Law Organization and President of Stellar Order.

"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light". John Milton, Lost Paradise.

@ /// f
Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-12-30 20:06:34 UTC
Given the abuse shares seem to hold I think if we drove for change the change would be removal.

For the stocks to go public there would tave to be voting and non voting shares (as some corps IRL have) and this WAS brought up at the summer summit http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/csm/CSM9Summer_Minutes_2014.pdf page 88.

I would like to see the promise of the early days of a stock market come to fruition but not if it meant hostile takeovers by the guys with the biggest wallet and the pvp became corporate room drama more often than lasers and missiles

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Mike Azariah  ┬──┬ ¯|(ツ)/¯
XeX Znndstrup
#7 - 2014-12-31 11:45:24 UTC
Dear CSM, dear Mike,

Thanks for this answer.

That are good news if CSM already proposed the idea.

For hostile takeovers, i think we must let it do as in a sandbox or in real corporations.
In real life, there is a choice when a company issues stocks : non voting shares, voting shares, proportions, dividends.
The company can protect itself deciding to issue limited proportion of voting shares and offering a interesting dividend or a price increase benefit if it works well. It's an example.
All takeovers don't succeed in real life. I don't see any reason that it works differently in a sandbox. It's a complex mechanism between power and interest. You can be a rich company. But if the shareholders want to keep the power, they won't sell.

In any case, it would bring a terrific extra dimension for this game.
And it won't have negative conséquences on the PvP dimension. Like in real life. At the opposite, they would interact. A war can have a effect on prices. A hostile takeover can provoke a war to keep the company like a "nationalization".

A lot of fun so !

Judge of The Law Organization and President of Stellar Order.

"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light". John Milton, Lost Paradise.

@ /// f