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Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2014-12-30 11:42:52 UTC
Jade Blackwind wrote:
This is just so lovely, words fail me. I can't stop laughing.

Or, wait. I have an idea.

How about we catch you and impart your lost Minmatarness back at you? That'd be fun. I can even find a wandering mystic who, for the modest sum, will bestow an appropriate Voluval mark on you, ms. Hydreiga.

And then the new and improved Minmatar you will be reinserted into the population.

hehehe


This brings up a question. Who is to say the Jovians didn't do something like this to insert sleeper agents into our midst? They are already manipulating genetics to a much greater degree than this project.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Doctor Valate
Delve Medical Services
#22 - 2014-12-30 12:29:21 UTC
It's not really very clear what it is that is being attempted here, in my opinion.

Would it be right to say, that the end goal would be to take a Minmatar person, scan their brain, and then upload that brain scan into a cloned body that is genetically not Minmatar ? Keeping sufficient genetic markers such that the known issues with cloning the brain due to differences between bloodlines, are avoided ?

Hmm.

Doctor Valerie Valate. Not to be confused with the other Valerie Valate.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2014-12-30 12:46:59 UTC
Doctor Valate wrote:
It's not really very clear what it is that is being attempted here, in my opinion.

Would it be right to say, that the end goal would be to take a Minmatar person, scan their brain, and then upload that brain scan into a cloned body that is genetically not Minmatar ? Keeping sufficient genetic markers such that the known issues with cloning the brain due to differences between bloodlines, are avoided ?

Hmm.


He is still mentally Matari and he still exudes the Matari culture and upbringing. No, that has to be purged to eliminate 'Minmatarness'.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#24 - 2014-12-30 13:44:40 UTC
Poor Wendrika. She makes all these concessions to conventional morality and still people attack her research —

  • She forces me to relinquish ownership on any research subjects that I give her.
  • She extracts from me a promise not to be "mean" for a period of time after the research begins. (I took this as meaning that I shouldn't sacrifice any slaves unto a holy and righteous God during that interval).
  • She releases 1750 filthy Minmatar subhumans into the general population without even experimenting upon them.
  • Of that last group, she provides 843 of them Protocol Charlie Sierra 9-Detramol treatment (whatever that is).
  • She releases failed experiments into the general population, providing at least one of them Protocol Charlie Sierra 9-Detramol treatment (whatever that is), even though they (I think) still retain their Minmatarness and ought to be sacrificed or otherwise destroyed.


And for all that, people keep threatening her. So sad.

(P.S. I wish I knew what these numbers meant. Do we want high GMaF or low GMaF? What is DfLR and do we want it to be high or low?)
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#25 - 2014-12-30 13:53:58 UTC
Anslo wrote:
You've just made the worst and last mistake of your life.

I see our local clown continues to spew empty threats that he will never be able to materialize.
How droll.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Bai'xao Meiyi
#26 - 2014-12-30 13:55:12 UTC
I see just about everyone that isn't Nation pull this ****, to be honest. That's only because I put my boot through the speakers the minute I hear their spokespeople and fan boys on any subject.

Morality is a means to an end. People decide what's right or wrong based on their culture and use that to get people marginally similar to nod their heads without really considering anything deeply. It's a visceral, animal thing.

Exterminating a crew of thousands, for fun and profit? They just knew what they were getting into. I can't be a bad person. It's not as if the crew was desperate, under educated or lacked other options. No no, can't be. But a productive piece of research, despite it being frown inducing and resulting in one and a half thousand free men women and children? How ******* evil.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#27 - 2014-12-30 14:03:13 UTC
Doctor Valate wrote:
It's not really very clear what it is that is being attempted here, in my opinion.

Would it be right to say, that the end goal would be to take a Minmatar person, scan their brain, and then upload that brain scan into a cloned body that is genetically not Minmatar ? Keeping sufficient genetic markers such that the known issues with cloning the brain due to differences between bloodlines, are avoided ?

Hmm.


The De-Minmatarization process is still underdevelopment.

Lady Wendrika's research on altering genetic markers that are a sure sign of Minmatar bloodlines may be just one step in the process.

Obviously, removal of Minmatar culturalization and memory will be another part. I am already experienced in brainwashing as a result of my slave control/indoctrination methods, but in order to achieve perfect mental De-Minmatarization, I may add some combination of brain implants, brain transplants, and lobotomy.

Furthermore, I am considering surgical and other medical interventions in order to adjust measurable characteristics of the subjects that are positively correlated with being Minmatar. This may involve cybernetics, organ transplants, blood work, hormone supplements or suppressors, and so on.

There are additional interventions that I have planned that I chose to keep classified at this time. And of course, De-Minmatarization must involve a ritual component (also under development) in order that God be involved in the process — I am personally undecided on the question of mind-body dualism, but if there be a "soul", than we must beseech God to replace the subject's Minmatar soul with a De-Minmatarized one. And there has to be Blood.

I am beginning to assemble a medical staff and am planning the construction of an initial De-Minmatarization facility. Hopefully, reasonable people will see the value in this work and not destroy it as they did my Temples to the Red God.

Any advise on these matters is appreciated.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-12-30 14:05:38 UTC
Ms. Wendrika, I have a scientific question to you regarding your research.

Is it possible at all by using your methods to turn a gallentean into human?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Wendrika Hydreiga
#29 - 2014-12-30 14:11:48 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Ms. Wendrika, I have a scientific question to you regarding your research.

Is it possible at all by using your methods to turn a gallentean into human?


Yes Miss Kim! That's why despite having Intaki genetic markers, I'm actually 62% cybernetic!

If by human you mean a half-machine flesh abomination, that is.
Jukko Riis
Doomheim
#30 - 2014-12-30 14:18:38 UTC
To:

Wendrika Hydreiga and Nauplius.


It would be in your best interest to avoid the Black Rise for the rest of your days.

Further, Black Rise Colonial Exploration will start the collection at one million ISK bounty for each of these individuals and we encourage pilots from across the galaxy to add to the bounty help show these two...individuals that there are lines that one simply does not cross.





BRCE: Mission Statement!
Jukko Riis
Doomheim
#31 - 2014-12-30 14:23:55 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Ms. Wendrika, I have a scientific question to you regarding your research.

Is it possible at all by using your methods to turn a gallentean into human?




Commander,


I urge you in the strongest possible terms to change course.



BRCE: Mission Statement!
Wendrika Hydreiga
#32 - 2014-12-30 14:36:57 UTC
Nauplius wrote:

(P.S. I wish I knew what these numbers meant. Do we want high GMaF or low GMaF? What is DfLR and do we want it to be high or low?)


Most of this data is computed by the CCR equipped on my Gila.

The GMaF is the Genetic Marker Fidelity and is a correlation value of how much of the orginal genetic markers remain after hybridization. The lower it is, the less "Minmattarness" is present. It goes from 0 to 1 percentils.

The DfLR and the ppQ are measurements of personality that I use to assertain just how much of a cloned person personality remains. My Almatter Report was conducted to analyse these measurements as adequate tools to weight personality deviation.

DfLR stands for Deviation from Last Reading. And ppQ is Personality Preservation Quoficient. There is always a rough deviation between ppQ readings of 0.2 on average, and that's accounted for in the DfLR.

Anything bellow 0.5 is considered as presense brain damage. 0.8 is adequate and is the average for any normal neuralization procedure.

You can read more of my methodology here. It was heavy readacted however. But what it means is that ppQ stabilizes after a period of time, even if the initial reading showed a bordeline value. Most cases, clone individuals recover their complete personality overtime.

I usually avoid describing my measurement tools since they are not pantented or were evaluated by my peers. But I'm making an exception!
Anslo
Scope Works
#33 - 2014-12-30 14:37:29 UTC
Jukko Riis wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Ms. Wendrika, I have a scientific question to you regarding your research.

Is it possible at all by using your methods to turn a gallentean into human?




Commander,


I urge you in the strongest possible terms to change course.




Block her and set her red. She's hopeless. A provist. Traitor. A guri tyuui half breed. Shoot on sight dude.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#34 - 2014-12-30 14:39:54 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Jukko Riis wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Ms. Wendrika, I have a scientific question to you regarding your research.

Is it possible at all by using your methods to turn a gallentean into human?




Commander,


I urge you in the strongest possible terms to change course.




Block her and set her red. She's hopeless. A provist. Traitor. A guri tyuui half breed. Shoot on sight dude.

Help!
Local clown aggro!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#35 - 2014-12-30 14:41:58 UTC
Mr. Riis, I see where are you going to.
Very good, I'll continue dealing with them with traditional weapons. Guns, missiles...

Just thought about a peaceful and scientific way to end the conflict.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#36 - 2014-12-30 14:42:05 UTC
Wendrika hates Nation. One of Nation's biggest offenses according to the Empires pre-Incursion was the "unethical" experimentation and alteration of Minmatar slaves. Wendrika proceeds to perform unethical experimentation and alteration of Minmatar slaves.

I'm not sure if I should laugh or be angry.

Pieter? Can we kill her?
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#37 - 2014-12-30 14:42:11 UTC
Jukko Riis wrote:

one million ISK bounty


Not that I oppose the idea of putting a bounty on people but are you sure you aren't breaking the bank on this one?
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#38 - 2014-12-30 14:45:49 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Anslo wrote:
You've just made the worst and last mistake of your life.

I see our local clown continues to spew empty threats that he will never be able to materialize.
How droll.


Doesn't mean I won't...
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#39 - 2014-12-30 14:48:48 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Jukko Riis wrote:

one million ISK bounty


Not that I oppose the idea of putting a bounty on people but are you sure you aren't breaking the bank on this one?

This might be a problem if Wendrika ever unlocked. She might be the sort that hides inside a station.
Anja Suorsa
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#40 - 2014-12-30 14:50:40 UTC
A mildly entertaining read on a quiet day. 6/10