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Red Giant and smartbomb damage and range (Singularity)

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Stanislaw Skalski
NFI industrial
#1 - 2014-12-29 19:38:07 UTC
Hey guys

I was testing smartbombs in Red giant system on SiSi. I thought that this kind of systems got bonus to smartbomb range and damage? But it stays for me as default nunbers if im there.

Is there a difference between conditions in TQ and Sisi regarding wh systems types?
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-12-29 19:44:43 UTC
Stanislaw Skalski wrote:
Hey guys

I was testing smartbombs in Red giant system on SiSi. I thought that this kind of systems got bonus to smartbomb range and damage? But it stays for me as default nunbers if im there.

Is there a difference between conditions in TQ and Sisi regarding wh systems types?


Did you actually test the range/damage or just talking about fitting stats?

Often, a wormhole effect works as advertised, but doesn't show on the fitting window. Try testing the range, I would expect that you'll find the WH effect is working as it is supposed to, but the fitting window is bugged. It's like that for magnetars with damage from things other than turrets (drones, missiles, etc).

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.

Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#3 - 2014-12-29 19:56:34 UTC
Try SBing on a WH, it should tell you that you need to be a different amount of km away than regular SB range. Also try hovering over the modules on your ship in space instead of checking in the fitting window.

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Stanislaw Skalski
NFI industrial
#4 - 2014-12-29 20:01:34 UTC
Nope. Im just sitting in C2 Red giant system on SiSi and i tested it right now. large smartbomb stays at 7,5km range just like in empire. Sleeper frigs should have been hit becouse the range with bonus is over 10km but no. They circled around me 8-9km and SB didnt touch them even if i stopped my ship.

Whats interesting i noticed that smartbomb hit incoming missiles, didnt know if thats possible.
Stanislaw Skalski
NFI industrial
#5 - 2014-12-29 20:05:52 UTC
Andrew Jester wrote:
Try SBing on a WH, it should tell you that you need to be a different amount of km away than regular SB range. Also try hovering over the modules on your ship in space instead of checking in the fitting window.


I receive this info:

http://s13.postimg.org/6ko2q1e6v/image.png

its stays at 7,5km when i hover the module.
But there is clearly stated that it should have bonus:
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wormholes
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#6 - 2014-12-29 20:08:05 UTC
Why the hell are you using faction smarties in a C2..?

Smartbombing missiles has been a thing for a while, it's called firewalling

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Stanislaw Skalski
NFI industrial
#7 - 2014-12-29 20:10:36 UTC
I knew someone will answer like that. Well its not the point why im doing it.
Im wondering why im not getting that bonus while all informations ive got tells me that i should.
Ghenghis Kralj
Big Johnson's
#8 - 2014-12-29 20:23:42 UTC
Not sure. I had played around with SB in Sisi before, and it worked alright. Could be a glitch. Could be more to come later :)
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#9 - 2014-12-29 20:24:21 UTC
Couldn't tell you tbh. Try sleeper BS or something, maybe the frigs are moving too fast or something like that. If it still doesn't work then file a bug report.

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Stanislaw Skalski
NFI industrial
#10 - 2014-12-29 20:28:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Stanislaw Skalski
I stopped my ship, Frigs stabilized their orbit around on circa 9km. SB should touch them becouse its bonused range would be over 10km - no effect.
I cant get close to sleeper bs - im too slow sadly (fat a.s.s. bs).

I filed petition ingame, we'll see.
If there are "bonused" systems without any bonuses it should be stated here:
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wormholes?_ga=1.193551213.1333245469.1415227028
otherwise it is confusing.
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
xX SERENITY Xx
#11 - 2014-12-29 20:46:53 UTC
tested c3 wormhole . smartbombs does not work as intended on red giants, probably the bonus isnt implemented corretly, also the bonus seem to not work on tq , asked a friend that lives in c2 red giant, he could not hit the sleepers with themm , bonus isnt applied at all
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-12-30 00:01:58 UTC  |  Edited by: LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Stanislaw Skalski wrote:
Hey guys

I was testing smartbombs in Red giant system on SiSi. I thought that this kind of systems got bonus to smartbomb range and damage? But it stays for me as default nunbers if im there.

Is there a difference between conditions in TQ and Sisi regarding wh systems types?


I use smartbombs in red giants all the time.

Range shows correctly on the weapon tooltip when moused over it. I know this 200% to be accurate. I farm sleepers in C5 and C6 using smartbombs.

On SiSi, who knows?

EDIT - just remember, range is not double, its tiered. its only double range in a C6, in C5 its like +80% or something.
Stanislaw Skalski
NFI industrial
#13 - 2014-12-30 00:12:10 UTC
SiSi should be a... TQ's mirror, right? Except new, incoming stuff.
I know its not doubled. For C2s its like 1.42 or 1.44 dont remember. I made simple calculations and large, best smartbomb should kill frigs @over 10km. And its not. Even more - its range stays at standard 7,5km.

As i said before.. if some of red giant systems are supposed to stay "effectless" it should be already written that it is so. Otherwise its bug..