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Rhea elimination of defunct char names --> block list?

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Memphis Baas
#21 - 2014-12-29 01:16:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Memphis Baas
So, basically, no, the new people adopting old names won't be blocked.

Is your block list full of Citizen xxxxxxx characters now?
Cedric Mactavish
Shiva Hara
#22 - 2014-12-29 01:18:54 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
When a character is blocked, they're blocked by characterID.

For instance, if you were to block CCP Falcon, you wouldn't be blocking "CCP Falcon" you'd be blocking the characterID "92532650".

If I changed my name to CCP Rook (which I would never do, because Rooks are poopy and completely inferior), then I'd still be blocked. Character name doesn't matter.

Just the same as if we change someone's character name because it's offensive, they'll still remain in your contact list under their new character name.

Hope this helps. Smile


Yes, it does. I had originally assumed you had deleted the characters with the stale trial accounts; in fact, you had merely done what was advertised - freed up their names.
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#23 - 2014-12-29 01:37:28 UTC
In that case, surely the better quesiton would be, if someone on my block list (character ID) ceases to exist, are they automatically removed from the list?

Not that it matters of course, but I'm a sucker for neatness.

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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#24 - 2014-12-29 01:39:01 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
When a character is blocked, they're blocked by characterID.

For instance, if you were to block CCP Falcon, you wouldn't be blocking "CCP Falcon" you'd be blocking the characterID "92532650".

If I changed my name to CCP Rook (which I would never do, because Rooks are poopy and completely inferior), then I'd still be blocked. Character name doesn't matter.

Just the same as if we change someone's character name because it's offensive, they'll still remain in your contact list under their new character name.

Hope this helps. Smile


So if you create a new character and it uses one of the wiped names, it wouldn't get blocked? Because the new char has a new ID that's just using an old name?

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Arisidana
Amadari Traders
#25 - 2014-12-29 02:27:27 UTC
Xen Solarus wrote:
In that case, surely the better quesiton would be, if someone on my block list (character ID) ceases to exist, are they automatically removed from the list?

Not that it matters of course, but I'm a sucker for neatness.


As long as the character ID is still intact even as a member of Doomheim it should be still in your block list, only when the name is picked up by a new player ( getting new character ID) it should disappear from your block list.

One of my biomassed characters is still there, hasn't been picked up in almost 2 years.
Arisidana
Amadari Traders
#26 - 2014-12-29 02:31:27 UTC
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
So if you create a new character and it uses one of the wiped names, it wouldn't get blocked? Because the new char has a new ID that's just using an old name?



correct
J'Poll
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Caldari State
#27 - 2014-12-29 03:36:53 UTC
Now all we need is a GM to confirm and complete the nice chevron list om top of the thread....

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#28 - 2014-12-29 06:57:04 UTC
Ahar. With that view of rooks, I wouldn't mind pasting you in a couple of chess games.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Dominique Vasilkovsky
#29 - 2014-12-29 12:28:32 UTC
Has any of the old names been freed up yet? The name I intend to re-use still seems to exist in game Sad
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#30 - 2014-12-29 12:52:17 UTC
Dominique Vasilkovsky wrote:
Has any of the old names been freed up yet? The name I intend to re-use still seems to exist in game Sad



All names for trial accounts (only trials) which are over a year old have been released.

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Dominique Vasilkovsky
#31 - 2014-12-29 13:00:50 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Dominique Vasilkovsky wrote:
Has any of the old names been freed up yet? The name I intend to re-use still seems to exist in game Sad



All names for trial accounts (only trials) which are over a year old have been released.

I guess the one I wanted was subbed for 1 month in 2003... Ah well, maybe it will be another purge in the next ten years.
Jean Luc Lemmont
Carebears on Fire
#32 - 2014-12-29 14:45:46 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:
hah that's easy. someone who plays

My block lists have always been, and will always be, completely empty. Except for times when I have to temporary block some exceedingly obnoxious people, but that doesn't last.

I just don't pay any attention to local when I'm in trade hubs or fleet fights. Don't see the need to block people.


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Gallente Federation
#33 - 2014-12-29 15:11:38 UTC
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
When a character is blocked, they're blocked by characterID.

For instance, if you were to block CCP Falcon, you wouldn't be blocking "CCP Falcon" you'd be blocking the characterID "92532650".

If I changed my name to CCP Rook (which I would never do, because Rooks are poopy and completely inferior), then I'd still be blocked. Character name doesn't matter.

Just the same as if we change someone's character name because it's offensive, they'll still remain in your contact list under their new character name.

Hope this helps. Smile


So if you create a new character and it uses one of the wiped names, it wouldn't get blocked? Because the new char has a new ID that's just using an old name?


exactly
TheMercenaryKing
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#34 - 2014-12-29 16:59:16 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
When a character is blocked, they're blocked by characterID.

For instance, if you were to block CCP Falcon, you wouldn't be blocking "CCP Falcon" you'd be blocking the characterID "92532650".

If I changed my name to CCP Rook (which I would never do, because Rooks are poopy and completely inferior), then I'd still be blocked. Character name doesn't matter.

Just the same as if we change someone's character name because it's offensive, they'll still remain in your contact list under their new character name.

Hope this helps. Smile



by using that logic, it would be possible for character name changes being not that difficult if it were offered as a service. I assume all references are by character ID in game with the exception being searches and player made links (in chat where you highlight it and do that right click thing). I don't intend to say it would be an easy task, but for 2 plexs i think it would be manageable. however if somethign like this were to be implimented, there should be a new tab for character info called "Aliases" listing old names and the times they were held like corp history.
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#35 - 2014-12-29 17:09:17 UTC
TheMercenaryKing wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
When a character is blocked, they're blocked by characterID.

For instance, if you were to block CCP Falcon, you wouldn't be blocking "CCP Falcon" you'd be blocking the characterID "92532650".

If I changed my name to CCP Rook (which I would never do, because Rooks are poopy and completely inferior), then I'd still be blocked. Character name doesn't matter.

Just the same as if we change someone's character name because it's offensive, they'll still remain in your contact list under their new character name.

Hope this helps. Smile



by using that logic, it would be possible for character name changes being not that difficult if it were offered as a service. I assume all references are by character ID in game with the exception being searches and player made links (in chat where you highlight it and do that right click thing). I don't intend to say it would be an easy task, but for 2 plexs i think it would be manageable. however if somethign like this were to be implimented, there should be a new tab for character info called "Aliases" listing old names and the times they were held like corp history.



If you take a look at the CSM minutes, it was discussed. There were strong feelings on both sides.

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CCP Falcon
#36 - 2014-12-29 17:09:35 UTC
TheMercenaryKing wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
When a character is blocked, they're blocked by characterID.

For instance, if you were to block CCP Falcon, you wouldn't be blocking "CCP Falcon" you'd be blocking the characterID "92532650".

If I changed my name to CCP Rook (which I would never do, because Rooks are poopy and completely inferior), then I'd still be blocked. Character name doesn't matter.

Just the same as if we change someone's character name because it's offensive, they'll still remain in your contact list under their new character name.

Hope this helps. Smile



by using that logic, it would be possible for character name changes being not that difficult if it were offered as a service. I assume all references are by character ID in game with the exception being searches and player made links (in chat where you highlight it and do that right click thing). I don't intend to say it would be an easy task, but for 2 plexs i think it would be manageable. however if somethign like this were to be implimented, there should be a new tab for character info called "Aliases" listing old names and the times they were held like corp history.


This has been a hotly debated topic among the community, and internally at CCP, for roughly the last decade. P

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#37 - 2014-12-29 17:21:39 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
When a character is blocked, they're blocked by characterID.

For instance, if you were to block CCP Falcon, you wouldn't be blocking "CCP Falcon" you'd be blocking the characterID "92532650".

If I changed my name to CCP Rook (which I would never do, because Rooks are poopy and completely inferior), then I'd still be blocked. Character name doesn't matter.

Just the same as if we change someone's character name because it's offensive, they'll still remain in your contact list under their new character name.

Hope this helps. Smile
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Hallvardr
#38 - 2014-12-29 17:52:20 UTC
CCP Falcon,

So reading the bigger picture there are a few oddities remaining.

1) Dominique Vasilkovsky: [an older name I want to use] ..still seems to exist in game ... was subbed for 1 month in 2003

So how can this old name still be unavailable if they've all been purged from the DB ?

2) Arisidana: One of my biomassed characters is still there, hasn't been picked up in almost 2 years.

I could see why "inactive" players you would never want to purge, but a biomassed character and inactive for "X" period, those should be okay to purge as well. There just seems to be a opportunity for a lot of wasted DB resources to me. IMHO.
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#39 - 2014-12-29 18:04:49 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Rooks are poopy and completely inferior

Paging CCP Rise for comment! P

Thanks for the interesting technical detail, CCP Falcon!

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#40 - 2014-12-29 18:07:26 UTC
Tbh all I would want is my name back.

The new owner of my old char doesn't need it.
Doesn't even use it. I don't care about the skillpoints.

I bet he wouldn't even notice if you just swapped the names.


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