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Faction Standings??
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Ava Valkyrie
Subsidy H.R.S.
Xagenic Freymvork
#1 - 2014-12-27 04:27:29 UTC
hi guys
its been a while since playing Eve and trying to get back into it but i've forgotten the standings

the standings im talking about are something like...

if i do cladari missions it lowers gallante
if i do amarr it lowers caldari

something like this

anyone know a site or resource that shows me these things?
Noriko Mai
#2 - 2014-12-27 04:31:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Noriko Mai
IIRC only mission against a faction will lower you standings. Mission for Minmatar to kill Amarr will lower you Amarr standing. Just deny that kind of missions. It's always says if it's against a special faction in the mission description.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#3 - 2014-12-27 04:31:28 UTC
A quick google search yielded this.



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Ava Valkyrie
Subsidy H.R.S.
Xagenic Freymvork
#4 - 2014-12-27 04:46:09 UTC
And just looking at all the different factions and corporations to do missions for, How do you choose which one to start doing missions for?
Noriko Mai
#5 - 2014-12-27 04:55:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Noriko Mai
Ava Valkyrie wrote:
And just looking at all the different factions and corporations to do missions for, How do you choose which one to start doing missions for?

There actually is no difference. Search a good location with a few agents nearby. This way you can accept more than one mission and go for it. And you will still have an agent available if you have to declined a few offers. Look at the NPCs and decide if you want to struggle with EWAR (Caldari missions against Guristas Pirates).

And the most important part: Look at the nebulae. You will have that all the time as you background.

EDIT: And read the link from Unsuccessful At Everything! Standings are really weird stuff in eve.

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-12-27 05:03:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Hasikan Miallok
Ava Valkyrie wrote:
hi guys
its been a while since playing Eve and trying to get back into it but i've forgotten the standings

the standings im talking about are something like...

if i do cladari missions it lowers gallante
if i do amarr it lowers caldari

something like this

anyone know a site or resource that shows me these things?


You are talking about derived standings.

When you get a positive or negative standing change to a faction you will also get a slight bump to factions the first is friendly with and a slight hit to factions they dislike.

For example getting improved Amarr standings will also improve Caldari slightly and cause a drop in Minmitar and also a very slight drop in Gallente.

The best way to tell is look up who the faction you want to mission for is friendly with.

Often the best option is a non-major faction. Missions for SOE for example give a big derived boost to Gallante but only have a slight effect on the other three majors
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#7 - 2014-12-27 12:51:07 UTC
Noriko Mai wrote:
IIRC only mission against a faction will lower you standings. Mission for Minmatar to kill Amarr will lower you Amarr standing. Just deny that kind of missions. It's always says if it's against a special faction in the mission description.

Not true

Missions that increase you standing towards one faction (the "storyline" ones) will decrease your standing towards its enemy faction. It will also increase your standing towards your faction's ally and decrease standing towards your ally's enemy
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#8 - 2014-12-27 12:59:21 UTC
Hengle Teron wrote:
Noriko Mai wrote:
IIRC only mission against a faction will lower you standings. Mission for Minmatar to kill Amarr will lower you Amarr standing. Just deny that kind of missions. It's always says if it's against a special faction in the mission description.

Not true

Missions that increase you standing towards one faction (the "storyline" ones) will decrease your standing towards its enemy faction. It will also increase your standing towards your faction's ally and decrease standing towards your ally's enemy


Same with data centers, dog tags.

It's all hard locked. Someone will always hate you. It's a question of how much.

There is really no need for Empire standings anymore though. High Sec POS dropping was the only motive to ever have it and that's a thing of the past.

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Dark Opaque Theme
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-12-27 13:23:43 UTC
Ioci wrote:
Hengle Teron wrote:
Noriko Mai wrote:
IIRC only mission against a faction will lower you standings. Mission for Minmatar to kill Amarr will lower you Amarr standing. Just deny that kind of missions. It's always says if it's against a special faction in the mission description.

Not true

Missions that increase you standing towards one faction (the "storyline" ones) will decrease your standing towards its enemy faction. It will also increase your standing towards your faction's ally and decrease standing towards your ally's enemy


Same with data centers, dog tags.

It's all hard locked. Someone will always hate you. It's a question of how much.

There is really no need for Empire standings anymore though. High Sec POS dropping was the only motive to ever have it and that's a thing of the past.



Empire and corp standings are still tied to the ability of creating jump clones (though you can circumvent that easily) and being able to access certain agents. It also matters to FW pilots.
Endecroix
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-12-27 18:50:20 UTC
As people have said - when you increase one standing by a lot you also increase the allied faction and decrease the opposing two factions. This will primarily occur during Storyline missions - presuming you ignore kill other factions missions. This is not as bad as it first appears though. The lower the standing you have with a faction the greater the increase you will get from any standing boost with them. Therefore you have a number of options:

a) Mission for a non-aligned faction that will give you very little downside eg SOE
b) Yoyo missions for opposing factions eg Caldari for one storyline then Gallente for another storyline then and keep switching to always keep them in balance (this will cause an overall net increase for all 4 Empire factions to a point)
c) Mission for whomever and then fix an deficit with Cosmos missions, datacentres and more importantly the Epic Arcs you can do every 3 months.

It is worth noting by yoyoing the faction you are missioning for and doing the Epic Arcs when available you can easily get all factions above 5. There does come a point though not too long after that where the derived negatives will be greater than the derived positives so the only way you could theoretically get all 4 Empire factions to +10 standing would be to do Epic Arcs.

As for the need for factions standings - there isn't too great a need as long as they aren't hostile to you.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2014-12-29 04:28:38 UTC
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