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Serpentis attacking ORE miners
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Erasmus Grant
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#1 - 2014-12-22 19:59:50 UTC
Does Serpentis truly own and oversee ORE operations? I am wondering, because I have Serpentis battleships pursuing me while I try to fulfill ORE mining contracts in the Outer Ring.
Jade Blackwind
#2 - 2014-12-22 20:04:01 UTC
Dude, you're really lucky it's just Serps, and not other eggers with their glassy eyes already displaying your killmail.

Outer Ring is full of Serpentis, anyway. Belts, gates, whatever. Unless they actually actively pursue you from system to system I fail to see any news here.
Erasmus Grant
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#3 - 2014-12-22 20:10:38 UTC
I must protest these working conditions!!! Being targeted by my boss's boss is not cool at all. I think I will find employment else where the employer has to the good sense to not try to blast their employees into the coldness of space.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-12-22 20:18:50 UTC
You're trying to project logic, foresight and sensibility onto a bunch of literal methheads. Any Serpentis captain who engages a capsuleer is either stupid, high, desperate, being punished by a superior, taking gigantic risks to try and prove he deserves his superior's job or has had a problem with his navigation system.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Jukko Riis
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-12-22 20:23:10 UTC
Erasmus Grant wrote:
I must protest these working conditions!!! Being targeted by my boss's boss is not cool at all. I think I will find employment else where the employer has to the good sense to not try to blast their employees into the coldness of space.



As well you should!

Perhaps you should seek other employment? Perhaps with a nice start-up corporation in say, Black Rise?

Serpents, Rabbits, Angels, Bees...these pirates grow unimaginative.


BRCE: Mission Statement!
Erasmus Grant
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#6 - 2014-12-22 20:30:05 UTC
Sounds tempting, but you see I am allergic to bees and waffles.
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#7 - 2014-12-22 21:17:07 UTC
You're an independent contractor who is not actually an ORE employee. Serpentis are not obligated to protect you.

-Eran
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#8 - 2014-12-22 23:04:41 UTC
Bees aren't all that bad...
Quattras Peione
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-12-23 02:01:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Quattras Peione
In addition to not being under any obligation to protect you, Serpentis is a very large organization. Just as with corporations elsewhere, different groups within the larger whole may have differing visions of what is best for Serpentis as a whole.

Furthermore, they are one of the earliest models of the modern "pirate corporation" model. Legitimate business endeavors often intertwine with criminal operations until the two are indistinguishable. There is every possibility that it was decided behind closed doors that it would be more profitable to destroy your ship and call the mission a loss than to allow you to complete your objectives. Valuable ores in their territory increase in value in direct proportion to the risk involved in acquiring them.

Dr. Quattras Alvar Peione

No, I'm not that kind of doctor.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#10 - 2014-12-23 02:50:23 UTC
Also, you wern't flying Serp colours. It makes all the difference.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Erasmus Grant
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#11 - 2014-12-23 02:54:49 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Also, you wern't flying Serp colours. It makes all the difference.


An ORE Prospect is close enough
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-12-23 07:16:13 UTC
Fly a Procurer or a Skiff.

The Serpentis will still attack you, but they - along with almost any capsuleer - will be much less likely to kill you. If you're good enough with drones, you might well kill them instead.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-12-23 09:04:32 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Fly a Procurer or a Skiff.

The Serpentis will still attack you, but they - along with almost any capsuleer - will be much less likely to kill you. If you're good enough with drones, you might well kill them instead.


Procurers are great! Sure, you have less cargo space but you could murder the everloving snot out of anything short of a fleet while mining!

Skiffs are, of course, even better!

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-12-23 09:12:09 UTC
I got ambushed by a Firetail out in nullsec while I was mining in my Procurer recently.

He fled from me in 12% structure. I didn't even turn off my mining lasers during the fight.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Wendrika Hydreiga
#15 - 2014-12-23 17:45:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Wendrika Hydreiga
Let's see... Claims to be working for ORE, has a SOE T-Shirt and is an EVEUni undergraduate. Hmm...

Nope, can't think of a reason why they would attack you!

Or maybe they attacked you because they are pirates and pirates always shoot without ever asking questions! Scum of New Eden those Serpentis Pirates.
Tabris Katz
The Forgotten Children
#16 - 2014-12-26 10:44:56 UTC
Serpentis are like all other pirate organizations in New Eden, scum! As such they have no regard for law-and-order and will attack anyone. I recommend next time they try to assault you, you give them their just deserve in the form of several swift blaster volleys.
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#17 - 2014-12-26 12:11:27 UTC
You might also consider that your hull is worth more to the Serpentis than your hard work in the belts. Also, you are still a Capsuleer. I would wager in good standing to forces in the Galaxy that work against Serpentis. Why should a random Serpentis captain give a single care at all for your life over his profit?
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#18 - 2014-12-26 16:29:35 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Fly a Procurer or a Skiff.

The Serpentis will still attack you, but they - along with almost any capsuleer - will be much less likely to kill you. If you're good enough with drones, you might well kill them instead.


Procurers are great! Sure, you have less cargo space but you could murder the everloving snot out of anything short of a fleet while mining!

Skiffs are, of course, even better!

I used to mission in a proc, kill the mission targets + lode your ore hold with roids from the mission site = profit.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#19 - 2014-12-26 16:32:34 UTC
SOOO glad I never had to mine on my own...
Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
#20 - 2014-12-26 16:49:56 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
I got ambushed by a Firetail out in nullsec while I was mining in my Procurer recently.

He fled from me in 12% structure. I didn't even turn off my mining lasers during the fight.


As a seasoned Firetail pilot, I'd like to make two observations while I giggle my @$$ off:
1 - that Firetail pilot was not...
2 - he got what he deserved from no.1

Good work!

Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
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