Intergalactic Summit

"We call these entities to contact us in order to build a network of vigilance against deliberate murderous attacks.
Contact us discreetly on our channel, by mail or private talking.

It's a fact that syndicate of crimes is powerful, well organized and unmerciful.
We can use the same tools to wash this plague.
We ask for your help.
Your weapons are yours : ISK, ships and will of course.

Please note we are not a corporation nor an alliance but only a secret organization."

While the sentiment towards good conduct is admirable, the strategy outlined by these quoted statements contains fairly obvious flaws in reasoning.

Most strikingly, you advocate the violence of a secret organisation in pursuit of a thing you call "law". This offends the plain meaning of words, as secret organisations using violence is precisely what the law is supposed to prevent. Indeed, it is precisely the evil you intend to prevent, with your glorious aspirations.

Given this equivalence against the nature of law, the only difference between you and those you seek to destroy is that you have explained why you are on the right side of the issue contested with your preferred enemies. From an objective vantage, your enemies might have exactly the same beliefs about their own moral worth.

It follows that "the law", if we are going to hail this concept, cannot operate ins secrecy. It is axiomatic that the law must be seen to be done as it is done. Transparency is part of the inalienable set of factors that constitute the rule of law.

Another part of that set is judicial process, often called due process. Judges of the law must be consistent and they must follow precedent. Further, they ought to defer to a parliament which devotes attention to public support for new laws.

It is a fact of new Eden that the mining and industrial classes partake of the same happy chaos as their pirate foes. Being immortal, they may reap the economic rewards of the mad, endless wars of the capsuleers, yet when it suits they cloak themselves in the moral finery of good conduct. Do not be fooled. All capsuleers are on the same side of war consumption in New Eden.

If you speak of law, think first of the myriad minions I have in my hanger. I have militants, homeless, janitors, dancing girls and even VIPs. They are all my subjects, to be whisked hence and forth according to my will as a capsuleer. Think also of the cannon fodder on the Dust platform, those sad little terrestrial monkeys who claw and scratch for petty ISK and no ultimate social mobility.

If there is any law in New Eden, it is the law of the capsuleers. So far, this has been the rule of the fist and, perhaps exceeding this to some extent, the deranged philo-theology of the goons.

When the capsuleers want law, first they will pay for it.

I estimate the ISK cost of pacifying a single low sec constellation at 120 billion ISK. This is a low level war to enforce respect for standings in empire space. This is the very first step on the path to capsuleer law.

At this rate, where will the money come from, to wage war for order in the low sec regions?

The miners have it, but they will not invest. The pirates will fall into order if the commerce of empire demands it, so all that really matters is the will of the industrial players, the miners and the traders.

If that class wills the rule of capsuleer law, they will fund the institutions to give such a vision effect, and they will fund the wars of liberation across New Eden, starting in Gallant space.

No law will come from secrecy, just as no light comes from shadows.

120 billion per system, and miners willing to fight.

Then you shall have the rule of capsuleer law.

Mr Pestilen Ratte, thanks for your opinion.

I am not sure we are only speaking about good sentiments. Security and wealth are very concrete.

It's the oldest subject in the human life : if you kill the killer, you are a killer.
Well. No one said that shooting is a bad thing. All depend on who and why you shoot.
A miner doesn't directly endanger life of anyone. An assassin who kills a miner because he is mining, yes. A hunter who kills this assassin is working so that it won't happen again, the best he can. In fact, it's a very simple process.

More over, nobody will object we have not the same conception of truth than some assassins.
We desagree. We warn them here, i think. After, we will do.

The Law must be known. The facts must be broadcasted. The Management and The Executive of the process must remain secret. No one will intimidate us or attack us directly. It would be too easy.

The process of law you describe is probably good in a normal world.
New Eden, infested with its flying vermin, is not. You understand we must adapt the process.
It would be our best wish to solve these problems with a bouquet of flowers. Assassins don't like flowers. They like blood. We will give them some.

Consumption. Well. There is probably more interest when there is faction warfare than when some thugs kill, not on a big scale, some weak and new pilots. Industrialists and miners may support this, ok. But not the ones who work with us. There is no absolute truth. Only different conceptions. They fight each other, that's a fact.

Law and fist : we agree.
Law and money : we agree. But you can also earn money when you don't lose 200 M ISK after one hour of honest mining. The money is here. Miners have, traders have. We let them the ability to use it if they think it's a good idea. But... do you know that the most confident money is yours ? The budget of some paranoiac groups of bastards is like a tear in the Ocean. Don't worry. We have all financial means to prosecute them.

No one wants to pacify a constellation like in the glorious tradition.
Walking in the field, waiting for the bullet.
No. I confirm. Light will come from the shadow. Without qualms.

If you believe in The Law, open your mind. There is always reasons to go far away from the path.
If you believe in The Law, really, come and help us.

Corporations, Alliances are in the traditions.
We like these traditions but we bring new traditions.

May The Law be our Savior.
Amen.

You very many much pretty.

Compliment from Kellie for stylist.

An interesting initiative.

I should point out, however, that vigilantism is generally viewed as "criminal activity" by law-enforcement agencies; which makes the initiative somewhat ironic.

I advise caution, it is all-too-easy to begin such a path with noble intentions and find yourselves getting lost in the mire of ambiguity that surrounds and infests the cluster.

The most amusing thing about all of this is that it seems to forget that things only seem a way from a certain point of view. I for example am a freedom fighter helping to ensure the Amarr Milita has freedom of docking rights. I am also an outlaw from the point of view of Concord. Whereas, Sansha's Nation and the Gurista's pirates have paid me to stop attacks from the DED that were surely illegal from their point of view not being concord signatories.

So since everything only really matters via the viewpoint you have I choose to believe my actions are just and legal.

Why do you think that might be? I suppose I shall deign to give you an answer, because I have nothing else to do.
The list of people to whom I must justify myself is vanishingly small and has been for quite some time. Your name is not on it.
The only being to whose judgement I submit is that of God. I certainly won't submit to yours unless you come and make me.
You're welcome to try by the way, come out here into the deep black and see how we do things. It might open your eyes to the way things are.

This is outrageous!

Wanton carnage and destruction is key to economic progress in our interstellar society! Whether it's a hulk being destroyed in an asteroid belt; or an expensive raven destroyed attempting a lowsec passage.

Drug runners, pirates, and agents of the CODE alike are the selfless agents of economic prosperity. They should be rewarded, not punished for their courageous sacrifice atop the altar of our commonwealth. It is only the misguided and entrenched elite with its pockets in industry and mining who would look to tell you otherwise. Think for yourself, and work protect the cultural activities of vagrants everywhere.

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Good advice, but they won't listen. Miners are dim. Like, really dim.
And humourless, grouchy, possesive, hostile, foul-mouthed, tetchy, stuck in a victim-mentality...

You're too hot to be defending miners. I could put you to much better use.

You'll lose.

Ladies, please.