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Time to clear up a few misconceptions and address the "Lies".

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Wrath Of Titans
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-12-24 20:27:27 UTC
So, without further adoo, let's dive right in.

6 years ago i started a corporation called Evil Monkeys Asylum, it was much the same as any corporation in the day, started off small with a few friends, then grew fast, we tried to stay in high sec but back then, Marmite didn't exist, but other alliances like privateers did, we quickly became to encounter more than my newer players could handle, we where forced to seek refuge in null sec.

This proved to be a blessing, we quickly went from strength to strength and continued to grow, we quickly assumed owner on two stations and a cap fleet grew, we quickly became known in querious and we quickly became a decent pvp corp. This was great. I was having the best time in eve.

Then my wife, who was carrying my son ben, had a tragedy, he was stillborn. I quickly lost interest in everything and handed the corporation to a friend and co-ceo Garadyr. I wrongly assumed that he would keep EMA going, he did not, two days after i left the game, he took EMA out of null and walked away with nearly a trillion in ISK and Assets. Such as it was, he blamed it on me, saying it was an alt of mine. Since he had in effect removed all roles, no one could tell if it was true or false.

I returned some 8 months later and tried to reboot EMA after taking the corporation back with shares. the char i was using (Hungo) quickly began to get hate mail and the war decs rolled in, i couldn't catch a break, so i sold Hungo on the forums (this can be searched and seen to be true). I used an alt and sent the ISk to my new main and carried on in a friends corp helping. However as time went on, i began to miss being in control and steering the corp, my friend made one mistake after another and i left and by then, enough time had gone on, so i rebooted EMA into the form it was.

EMA went from empire to becoming the leading corporation in Caldari FW, we grew and went from strength to strength, war decs came, we stomped all over them, we carried on, but, unknown to me, a few officers and my co ceo Levnil, had began to stage a cou'de'ta. bad for them, that one of the guys they where working with began to feel guilty and spilled his guts to me.

I ofc took immediate action and shut EMA down, HARD. All assets and ISk seized by me, i was in effect, a "corp thief". This part never even occurred to me till after i had take these actions in anger. A lot of the corp guys had no clue what was going on and i refused to speak to anyone.

I was hurt, angry, confused, i couldn't understand what i had done wrong, i spent every day recruiting whilst working, running applications, running fleets, raising money, organizing the industry corporation. I had been betrayed by my very command team and all because they wanted to go to null sec and wormholes and i had refused, which is Ironic as the betrayed started a new corp called cherry-poppers and now live in a wormhole (this confirmed i had not been lied to).

So, now, my industrial char, Lord Whisker has been labelled a corp thief, i had to get rid of three chars becaue of there lies and deceit on the eve-o forums to cover there own backsides and i began to get VERY angry and play along, i pretended to be a corp "thief" and heist other corps, all of which was 100% bullshit and bluster.

I quickly began to break my most cardinal rule about letting your emotions take control in an online video game and began to really make an ass of myself.

I have no way to fix this, i made stupid forum posts, i made stupid mails and i screwed up really bad.

Why am i writing this forum post?

Because i am here to apologize, to say sorry to each and every person i offended, hurt or made angry, to each person who feels i betrayed them without reason. i am sorry, truly i am. I know war will follow the forum post. But at least i made the effort and apologized and owned up and admitted what i did, but in retrospect, at least now, you know the reasons why and the truth.

I will continue to build Dark Eternity no matter what. It is my new hobby.

I can only re-iterate, i am sorry for anything id di that caused distress in others.

Wrath
Tasnala Estidal
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-12-24 22:28:53 UTC
Wrath Of Titans wrote:
So, without further adoo, let's dive right in.
Wrath


TL;DR:

A long time ago I made a corp, ripped people off and played alts for a while. When I realized my main was burnt, I sold him and made a new corp. I ripped them off, too. I feel bad because I dont want to have to sell this toon.
Levnil Oriki
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-12-24 23:03:39 UTC
A few points there need clearing up!

- just like every other alliance that asks, we aren't heading to null. The amount of times I've been asked is ridiculous. Also, the wormhole idea is about six or seven weeks old. Wasn't anything near as premeditated as that.

- there was no coup being planned. There was that time you hit a miserable patch and dropped corp with all characters. We asked you to come back, and you walked back in, with everything smoothed over. The unpleasant incident happened just a few weeks later.

- there was all those times where you'd shoot at everything in sight, blues and allies, then leave the headache of clearing that up to me. This includes both the Amarr and Caldari militias.

- you didn't shut EMA down, you cleared out everything and wouldn't say a word. First thing I did was get the officers together and crack out a plan for surviving before we went and told the rest of the corp. Then we took a roam out as normal. I still have various mails from you, outlining your mood swings over and back. We started Cherry-Poppers as a way of getting away from the toxic reputation your "shoot everything" approach had brought us.

If you really want to apologize and such, change a few things.
Firstly, stop spouting your madness in local. The grammar alone is painful.
Run a corp, and deliver what you tell them you'll deliver.
When you log in, try to be consistent and not give headaches to people in the corp.
Control those emotions a bit better.

My corp has no further involvement with you, and I'm pretty happy with that. We aren't out to get you specially, don't make the mistake of flattering yourself like that. If you somehow appear on my overview, it'll be as a neutral, and I'll shoot you like anyone else. It's fun. Oh, and I did report every single slight you took at my nationality. Sure as hell that violates the TOS.
Wrath Of Titans
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-12-24 23:29:15 UTC
Levnil Oriki wrote:
A few points there need clearing up!

- just like every other alliance that asks, we aren't heading to null. The amount of times I've been asked is ridiculous. Also, the wormhole idea is about six or seven weeks old. Wasn't anything near as premeditated as that.

- there was no coup being planned. There was that time you hit a miserable patch and dropped corp with all characters. We asked you to come back, and you walked back in, with everything smoothed over. The unpleasant incident happened just a few weeks later.

- there was all those times where you'd shoot at everything in sight, blues and allies, then leave the headache of clearing that up to me. This includes both the Amarr and Caldari militias.

- you didn't shut EMA down, you cleared out everything and wouldn't say a word. First thing I did was get the officers together and crack out a plan for surviving before we went and told the rest of the corp. Then we took a roam out as normal. I still have various mails from you, outlining your mood swings over and back. We started Cherry-Poppers as a way of getting away from the toxic reputation your "shoot everything" approach had brought us.

If you really want to apologize and such, change a few things.
Firstly, stop spouting your madness in local. The grammar alone is painful.
Run a corp, and deliver what you tell them you'll deliver.
When you log in, try to be consistent and not give headaches to people in the corp.
Control those emotions a bit better.

My corp has no further involvement with you, and I'm pretty happy with that. We aren't out to get you specially, don't make the mistake of flattering yourself like that. If you somehow appear on my overview, it'll be as a neutral, and I'll shoot you like anyone else. It's fun. Oh, and I did report every single slight you took at my nationality. Sure as hell that violates the TOS.


This is same **** and bull story you fed them to get them to betray me.

Oh and a FYI, we know that exoctic whatever is your alts, evil and relenti or w/e his name stated as much in local channels.

Again you lie to cover your own backside
Levnil Oriki
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-12-24 23:37:10 UTC
Wrath Of Titans wrote:


This is same **** and bull story you fed them to get them to betray me.

Oh and a FYI, we know that exoctic whatever is your alts, evil and relenti or w/e his name stated as much in local channels.

Again you lie to cover your own backside


Ah now, enough of that. You're insulting the people who dec you with their main characters. That corp smashing you has one single alt of a Cherry character in it. It's their decision to join in on that particular party.

The paranoia is simply too strong to hold to any kind of apologetic tone you were aiming for at the start of this thread. Did I not say that you needed some kind of consistency? Stop proving me right, for your own sake even.
lIl Phalcon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-12-24 23:55:32 UTC
Wrath Of Titans wrote:
Levnil Oriki wrote:
A few points there need clearing up!

- just like every other alliance that asks, we aren't heading to null. The amount of times I've been asked is ridiculous. Also, the wormhole idea is about six or seven weeks old. Wasn't anything near as premeditated as that.

- there was no coup being planned. There was that time you hit a miserable patch and dropped corp with all characters. We asked you to come back, and you walked back in, with everything smoothed over. The unpleasant incident happened just a few weeks later.

- there was all those times where you'd shoot at everything in sight, blues and allies, then leave the headache of clearing that up to me. This includes both the Amarr and Caldari militias.

- you didn't shut EMA down, you cleared out everything and wouldn't say a word. First thing I did was get the officers together and crack out a plan for surviving before we went and told the rest of the corp. Then we took a roam out as normal. I still have various mails from you, outlining your mood swings over and back. We started Cherry-Poppers as a way of getting away from the toxic reputation your "shoot everything" approach had brought us.

If you really want to apologize and such, change a few things.
Firstly, stop spouting your madness in local. The grammar alone is painful.
Run a corp, and deliver what you tell them you'll deliver.
When you log in, try to be consistent and not give headaches to people in the corp.
Control those emotions a bit better.

My corp has no further involvement with you, and I'm pretty happy with that. We aren't out to get you specially, don't make the mistake of flattering yourself like that. If you somehow appear on my overview, it'll be as a neutral, and I'll shoot you like anyone else. It's fun. Oh, and I did report every single slight you took at my nationality. Sure as hell that violates the TOS.


This is same **** and bull story you fed them to get them to betray me.

Oh and a FYI, we know that exoctic whatever is your alts, evil and relenti or w/e his name stated as much in local channels.

Again you lie to cover your own backside


WOW, this is paranoia on an extreme scale, please tell me more!!

We do have one member of Levnil's corp with us on an alt, but the rest of us aren't anything to do with them. With a past as sketchy as yours, is it any surprise you have a small following of people following your drama and looking for more epic threadnoughts started by yourself?

Also, noted this in your corp description:

No Drama/Abuse Needed Thanks.

If you don't want drama, maybe stop being such a queen and creating it yourself? See you on grid soon Blink

Paranoid Loyd
#7 - 2014-12-25 00:10:42 UTC
Nitshe alts everywhere.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Tasnala Estidal
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-12-25 00:50:10 UTC
I still think the OP would have been better if he just wrote this.

Wrath Of Titans wrote:


i made stupid forum posts.

Why am i writing this forum post?

Wrath






Cheese Crackers
Malfurion Mining
#9 - 2014-12-25 08:01:17 UTC
I think everyone needs to just sit down and have some Cheese Crackers and maybe some wine to wash it down. Then we can communicate our feelings together like gents. Merry Christmas all!
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-12-25 09:58:31 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Removed by me.

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Wrath Of Titans
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-12-25 11:20:26 UTC
doesn't matter

I told the truth, that's a weight off me, lot's of posting by NPC alts scared to use main chars

Levnil lieing as normal, which for him, is not un usual, he lies alot to everyone anyhow, see his previous corp and how he betrayed them to join me

No issue, all of you need to grow up, big men behind screens but little boys living of there mums

im done w/e
Levnil Oriki
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-12-25 11:36:57 UTC
Wrath Of Titans wrote:
doesn't matter

I told the truth, that's a weight off me, lot's of posting by NPC alts scared to use main chars

Levnil lieing as normal, which for him, is not un usual, he lies alot to everyone anyhow, see his previous corp and how he betrayed them to join me

No issue, all of you need to grow up, big men behind screens but little boys living of there mums

im done w/e


Lacking a solid name to address you as, since you biomass so often, and it being the festive season, I'm going to call you Sugarplum. Seriously though, you haven't a hope. Threats to destroy my corp came to absolutely nothing.

As for lying to anyone (note, spelling), ask the guys. They chose the corp we had over following you and getting ripped off again, and they chose me as CEO. The day you can prove something is the day I might take your keyboard splerging seriously.
clyde Alabel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-12-25 12:36:35 UTC
i can't comment on every point but for the ones i was involved in, what a load of horse poo wrath of titans
"organizing the industry"? did you did you really?
no what you did is rip off the corp, delete all contacts and delete your so called friends from facebook, you knew what you was doing from day one and you've done it before and you'll do it again
lIl Phalcon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2014-12-25 13:14:07 UTC
Wrath Of Titans wrote:
doesn't matter

I told the truth, that's a weight off me, lot's of posting by NPC alts scared to use main chars

Levnil lieing as normal, which for him, is not un usual, he lies alot to everyone anyhow, see his previous corp and how he betrayed them to join me

No issue, all of you need to grow up, big men behind screens but little boys living of there mums

im done w/e


Maybe some people are suffering like you and can't work out which char to call their main as they have so many chars to use?

Looked at Levnil's previous corp, EMA, and the previous corp before that, Magnetic Scent of Power, both of which were founded by chars of yours. You're saying he betrayed you to join you?

As for the rest of the trashy insults, you sure you're not just looking in a mirror for inspiration for these?
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#15 - 2014-12-25 13:22:59 UTC
*makes the popcorn*

*grabs a beer*

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

Tasnala Estidal
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2014-12-25 14:13:34 UTC
Wrath Of Titans wrote:


lot's of posting by NPC alts


You sir, seem to be the resident authority on alts.

The only thing missing from your posting are the empty promises of never doing it again. You see, I even made you list of proper C&P thread content for Christmas. Dont leave us hanging.

[√] Ripping people off
[√] Wall of text with crafty explanation
[√] Tears when it all backfires
[√] Claims of Nitshe alts everywhere
[√] Popcorn and beer grabbing
[ ] Promising you won't ever do it again
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-12-25 16:58:08 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Nitshe alts everywhere.


That sunuvabitch is everywhere.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Casanunda
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2014-12-25 19:10:32 UTC
For a name like wrath of Titans, we are yet to see any Titans, or anything bigger than a destroyer to be honest, and a distinct lack of "Wrath".

Maybe the op was compensating for a lack of something else....

The fact that I am not a gazillionaire Gallente aristocrat with the sexual capacity of a rutting rhino is a constant niggle.

Buddy Scrap
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-12-25 19:40:55 UTC
Or you could just concentrate on RL today. None of this **** matters, today of all days.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2014-12-25 19:52:34 UTC
Buddy Scrap wrote:
Or you could just concentrate on RL today. None of this **** matters, today of all days.


Lol. W/E dude.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

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