Science & Industry

Does anyone have a basic skill layout for an indy alt?

I want to reprocess all the crap mods I get from missions to build better mods and ships. I know I will need an industrial ship in order to haul the completed products but other than the manufacturing skills and refining I dont know what else to train for.

Any help / suggestions would be awesome.

Wow thanks. That was pretty much what I was looking for.

Lets break down exactly what you want to do. First you say you want to reprocess your loot. To do this, ideally you would have Scrapmetal Processing, but if you don't mind a small amount of waste, you can get most of the minerals with Refinery Efficiency IV. There are also implants that can help. Otherwise you're looking at a long slog of training to get to Scrapmetal. Don't forget you also need 6.67 standings with the NPC corp that owns the station where you want to reprocess at. Also make sure that station has a 50% refinery and not one of the crappy 30% refineries.

The next step you mention is to take those minerals from your loot and build stuff out of them. There are some factors you should consider here.

Firstly, your loot will likely produce a fair amount of minerals, but probably not enough to feed 10 manufacturing lines 24/7, so you likely won't need more than a few levels in Mass Production unless you decide to go fully into manufacturing. You might just start out with your single line and see if it meets your needs. On a side note, Mass Production IV is nice as it unlocks Supply Chain Management which would allow you to start jobs remotely and/or start jobs at POS manufacturing arrays.

Production Efficiency V is pretty much a must for any manufacturing involving minerals.

All Manufacturing requires a blueprint. If you intend to only manufacture a few odds and ends here and there for personal consumption, you'll probably want to just grab some pre-researched Blueprint Copies (BPC) off of contracts. On the other hand, if you should decide you want to mass produce something, you'll probably want to invest in a Blueprint Original (BPO) and either research it yourself, or buy one that has already been researched off contracts.

As for hauling, you can either do it yourself or even contract it out using a courier contract. It really depends on what you manufacture and how bulky it is. Hauling takes time, and if you can make more in that time doing missions, paying someone else to do it might not be a bad idea.

If you intend to sell your products on the market and you have someone else haul, you'll probably want to get both Marketing and Daytrading so that you can set up sell orders and modify them remotely.

If you get more involved in manufacturing and/or trading, you can build out from there. There is good potential for semi-passive income from both. Personally, I'd suggest getting into trading first, before getting heavily into manufacturing. The knowledge you pick up will help you figure out what to manufacture. Buying up modules to melt down might be a good place to start.

Lastly, if spreadsheets scare you, you may not want to get heavily involved in manufacturing. Always do the math first and always give materials a value even if you acquired them for "free".

For reprocessing crap, flying haulers, and basic T1 manufacturing, you won't need an alt. Just train the skills up on your main. Ditto for trading, since I'm assuming you just want to set up buy/sell orders, and not constantly milk the markets for ISK.

mechanic 5, engineering 5, science 5, electronics 5, all science skills 4 so you can invent and build stuff, pe5, adv. lab ops 4, adv. mass production 4, scientific networking 4, supply chain management 4, hacking 3, 4 encryption methods 4, other stuff i forgot to mention.

also i disagree that you absolutely need pe5, t2 manufacturing profits far outweight 5% mineral waste, maybe you need it for t1 production but there is so little profit and so much work to do its not worth bothering with anyway