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Elite: Dangerous v EVE

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Mharius Skjem
Guardians of the Underworld
#161 - 2014-11-19 20:14:52 UTC
Vudra Keerah wrote:
There are a lot of features that are coming to ED that Eve does not have, a current system is manual flight into a station. I wonder if we might see this in Eve due to the WASD keys that are currently being tested?


To do that properly will add multiple Gigs to the client size, given the variety in station designs that we have, so I cant see that coming.

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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#162 - 2014-11-19 22:03:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Mina Sebiestar
Mharius Skjem wrote:
Vudra Keerah wrote:
There are a lot of features that are coming to ED that Eve does not have, a current system is manual flight into a station. I wonder if we might see this in Eve due to the WASD keys that are currently being tested?


To do that properly will add multiple Gigs to the client size, given the variety in station designs that we have, so I cant see that coming.


Not much of a point either it would need to be non manual to avoid bumping for no reason,

So basically pretty animation if u enable market and other stuff while it runs ok but thats hardly good enough reason for massive investment.....if you are docking in dust/legion than yes but thats too far in not gonna happen imo.

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Something Random
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#163 - 2014-11-19 23:41:53 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
I'll add, if E:D is having this much issue with canceling a feature for now, imagine the backlash that other game will get when they need to scrap huge sections of it.


Ive been playing E:D a lot and liking it. I have to ask 'Did you really think they'd allow an option to go offline and earn 4 billion credits without the real risk of a serious interdiction (we're talking humans here) and then login again with it all?'

Get real.

Im setting up for some serious twitch based piracy and bankruptcy. I might cry.

"caught on fire a little bit, just a little."

"Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangs all here!"

I love Science, it gives me a Hadron.

Indahmawar Fazmarai
#164 - 2014-11-20 07:46:31 UTC
LOL, love this guys! "No offline mode" threadnaught was closed at 10,000 mark (10,001 counting the moderator closure post) and the moderators themselves started a new thread to continue discussion. The new thread is currently 9 pages long at 125 posts.

E:D threadnaughts, best threadnaughts!Lol
Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#165 - 2014-11-20 15:15:02 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
LOL, love this guys! "No offline mode" threadnaught was closed at 10,000 mark (10,001 counting the moderator closure post) and the moderators themselves started a new thread to continue discussion. The new thread is currently 9 pages long at 125 posts.

E:D threadnaughts, best threadnaughts!Lol


That is funny, but it's also good moderation. If the user base is going to rage, it's going to rage, and you can either channel it like these guys did or find yourself with a thousand more rage threads and a whole new reason to rage.

+1 for them.

Maybe eventually they'll realize that the only sane way to make an online and an offline game is to make two separate games.

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#166 - 2014-11-20 19:53:57 UTC
Something Random wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
I'll add, if E:D is having this much issue with canceling a feature for now, imagine the backlash that other game will get when they need to scrap huge sections of it.


Ive been playing E:D a lot and liking it. I have to ask 'Did you really think they'd allow an option to go offline and earn 4 billion credits without the real risk of a serious interdiction (we're talking humans here) and then login again with it all?'

Get real.

Im setting up for some serious twitch based piracy and bankruptcy. I might cry.



Oh I could care less, I really have no interest in E:D, an npc driven economy and most likely sharded world has pretty much ended me even considering it. Though I will admit, if I did play another game i'd play E:D over that vaporware monstrosity.

I just thought it was funny, and I predict when the monstrosity is cancled or gutted like a fish, the tears will make jump fatigue and no offline in ED look like a a puddle.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Something Random
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#167 - 2014-11-20 20:36:59 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
Something Random wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
I'll add, if E:D is having this much issue with canceling a feature for now, imagine the backlash that other game will get when they need to scrap huge sections of it.


Ive been playing E:D a lot and liking it. I have to ask 'Did you really think they'd allow an option to go offline and earn 4 billion credits without the real risk of a serious interdiction (we're talking humans here) and then login again with it all?'

Get real.

Im setting up for some serious twitch based piracy and bankruptcy. I might cry.



Oh I could care less, I really have no interest in E:D, an npc driven economy and most likely sharded world has pretty much ended me even considering it. Though I will admit, if I did play another game i'd play E:D over that vaporware monstrosity.

I just thought it was funny, and I predict when the monstrosity is cancled or gutted like a fish, the tears will make jump fatigue and no offline in ED look like a a puddle.


Wasnt trying to be too in your face, just point out the main point really.

And yes, you are right :)

"caught on fire a little bit, just a little."

"Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangs all here!"

I love Science, it gives me a Hadron.

Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
#168 - 2014-11-21 15:41:14 UTC
Beeteedubs, sorry for being a jerky-jerk earlier in the thread. I look forward to E:Ds release; still on the fence about playing it myself, but I will check out some streams and LPs with interest.

Fly safe, everyone! <3

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Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#169 - 2014-11-23 21:29:51 UTC
Just thought I would share this.

I made my way Sol using a hauler and frame shift drive upgrade along with stripping some unnecessary parts in increase jump range.

Might add a few more screens later. http://imgur.com/a/QL9cZ

Indahmawar Fazmarai
#170 - 2014-11-23 22:16:14 UTC
Commissar Kate wrote:
Just thought I would share this.

I made my way Sol using a hauler and frame shift drive upgrade along with stripping some unnecessary parts in increase jump range.

Might add a few more screens later. http://imgur.com/a/QL9cZ



Cool, space station M. Gorbachev... Lol
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#171 - 2014-12-16 18:38:42 UTC
See kids, this is how you avoid cluttering up forums, you bump an old thread.

With ED's release, I'm wondering if its any different then beta? and if so is it better or worse? I might check it out

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#172 - 2014-12-16 21:10:10 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
See kids, this is how you avoid cluttering up forums, you bump an old thread.

With ED's release, I'm wondering if its any different then beta? and if so is it better or worse? I might check it out


It's exactly the same as Gamma 2.0 and quite a bit better than beta.
Crimson Draufgange
The Seven Shadows
Scotch And Tea.
#173 - 2014-12-17 04:55:37 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
I wondered how was EVE preparing to face the might of David Braben's latest work on the Elite series. But then I looked at EVE's latest patch pictures and I saw what they did there!

These new mobile structures, the Mobile Depot and the Mobile Siphon Unit... where have I seen this kind of design? Maybe in some of Elite: Dangerous ships like the Sidewinder, the Viper or even the Cobra???

What about the new ISIS guide? Wait a minute... I think I've seen something from Elite: Dangerous like that aswell... was it the starmap? Yes, I remember it now!

Omg, even EVE's website front page now has a yellow button like the Elite: Dangerous' site and it's new store! ED webmasters even had to change their button's color to orange to stay original!


This attempt to clone Elite:Dangerous assets comes as another sign of serious confidence loss within CCP's direction, despite claims made by its CEO in this interview, where he states that "It's easy to go and look at all the new shiny things that are coming but we don't want to be doing that. We want to stick to our guns".

It's somewhat understandable that CCP's stakeholders might be afraid to lose costumers to a game like Elite, the godfather of space trading and combat simulators and a pioneer in 3d computer graphics and procedural generation, that served as role model for EVE Online itself aswell as other games like Wing Commander and Freelancer.

ED's early backer rewards program has recently closed with over 40.000 backers donating over £2 million pounds of crowdfunding swag. The alpha build is now live. (If you aren't lucky enough to be one of the backers with Alpha build access, you can check this twitch feed for streamers.) Open world sandbox and space simulation fans are highly optimistic about the game and anxious to get their hands on the final release.
And it's not for less. The game is looking gorgeous and will give players the freedom to roam/resource gather/trade/pirate/fight in more than 100 billion procedurally generated star systems (including our own) with moving celestials, real 1:1 scale and physics. Oculus Rift support is currently working on the alpha build, future expansions confirmed by Braben include avatar gameplay, atmospheric entry and planet landing/exploration. The game will have no monthly fees but they do plan on charging for these expansions. Early backers who funded £80 or more will have free access to all of them, besides the satisfaction of knowing they helped once more to kick big publishers in the nuts with another epic crowdfunded project Twisted

Will this game kill EVE? Will we abandon New Eden forever? Of course not, but it will surely hurt CCP's finances, not only by attracting a lot of its current playerbase but also by offering a fresh and high quality game to the space sandbox MMO genre newcomers.
EVE could be top dog in the industry by offering a top quality product to the players, but CCP decided to pursue other ventures and is now playing catch-up with its new competition.
Care to share your thoughts?


So how much did E:D's CEO pay you to make this post? Did he pay you in ISK or real cash?

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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#174 - 2014-12-17 10:20:46 UTC
Dang. ED's spaceships are even more boring looking than SC's. Why can't anyone hire some decent designers.
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#175 - 2014-12-17 13:31:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Commissar Kate
Unezka Turigahl wrote:
Dang. ED's spaceships are even more boring looking than SC's. Why can't anyone hire some decent designers.


Quite a few of the ships you see in E:D are just modern versions of the old ones in the Original Elite.


The Cobra mkIII is one of most iconic and well known spaceships in space sim history..... leave it alone please. Also the ships in Elite are suppose to be aerodynamic as they are capable of landing on planets.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#176 - 2014-12-17 14:51:29 UTC
Unezka Turigahl wrote:
Dang. ED's spaceships are even more boring looking than SC's. Why can't anyone hire some decent designers.


E:D's designs are meant to, you know, fly. Same as SC's. They belong to a design school called "Function makes the shape". EVE's ships, as other fantasy SF ships, belong to a different school called "Shape is the function".

Bold designs aren't so bold when you pretend to make them "work", let alone walk inside them...
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#177 - 2014-12-21 00:26:07 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Sup friends, whats cracking? P Thanks for keeping the thread alive while I was away in strike!

By the way, if you haven't noticed yet theres a contest going on in ED to reward with $1500 the first person to obtain the Elite rank in Combat, Exploration or Trading and with $15000 the first to obtain all 3 ranks Twisted

I have been playing/streaming Diablo III, Smite and a bit of EVE, haven't played much ED yet but I'm gonna start now and am planning to stream it at CyberChaosCrew's twitch channel (if my laptop can handle the game+stream). Everybody welcome to pop in to watch if they like.

See you in space!
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#178 - 2014-12-22 15:37:09 UTC
So Elite has been out for 6 days. I haven't checked my hard drive for signs or Rigor mortis yet, so can someone tell me if EVE is dead yet (as predicted) or not?

Twisted
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#179 - 2014-12-22 16:47:05 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
So Elite has been out for 6 days. I haven't checked my hard drive for signs or Rigor mortis yet, so can someone tell me if EVE is dead yet (as predicted) or not?

Twisted


I think you might want to check out the StarCitizen v Eve thread for that.

They are for damn sure that SC is gonna kill Eve and that SC is way better than Eve ever thought of being.



I have been having a blast with E:D myself.
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#180 - 2014-12-22 16:47:07 UTC
Judging from videos of ED, the method of traveling from system to system and interdicting other players seems pretty cool. Looks more exciting than EVE's gates and gate camps.