My EVE

That was hilariously BORING ...

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Absolutely, and that's fine, but it's a sandbox. If you want to just come in a do missions, you can. Alienating people from the entire game because thye don;t play your way is dumb.

I'm sure many people have reacted this way and been spoken to properly by someone who's not an antisocial neckbeard and gone on to continue playing and enjoy the game. The problem is when someone reacts like this they are generally met by trolls telling them to leave and asking for their stuff.

I'm not saying they should be shielded from all harm, but a fresh noob to this game will not have played a game like it, so compounding their already shocked reaction by acting like a prick really isn't the right way to go, yet it's the way most of this playerbase chooses to go.

To be entirely truthful though, Elite:Dangerous has got it right. If people want to just come in play a bit of spaceships and not fight people, they can play solo mode, while the rest of us can play open. If and when they decide to join in with the rest of us, they can. Because let's face it, why does it affect you if someone else wants to just be left alone? If they play alone or don't play at all, it makes no difference to me, but it's extra income for the developers from players who are off doing their own thing on their own.

No it is not, it IS the game. EVE is a game about people. I am able to PVE freely because I ENFORCE my in-game 'right' to that freedom (by knowing the game, and knowing how gankers and such think).

EVE isn't a themepark MMO where you get walled off from other people. Freedom means that people who like to screw with people will screw with people and you can't be a good EVE PVPr without acknowledging (and then defeating) that fact.



They get 'trolled' because this isn't kindergarten. This is a game of adults. it's like doing badly at a drinking game in a Biker bar, no one cares about your wee little feeling, man up and drink more.



That's because, again, this is a game with adults, a game of freedom. Freedom is messy.

Acting like a man in a game full of men isn't acting like a prick, it's acting you you actually have a healthy level of testosterone in your system. Why would you walk into a situation like EVE (real life correlations: a biker bar, a strip club, prison) if you are so tender hearted that your feelings get hurt so easily?



Obvious Question, why aren't you playing E:D full time if it got it right and EVE didn't?

It's not a matter of something affecting other people. I don't care what anyone does or doesn't do. I'm saying that it's stupid to come into a game like EVE and expect sunshine and unicorns. If people want to pay 15 bux a month or grind a plex to play a game with a community that hurts it's feelings, well, to each his own. Some people like to get tied up and whipped and call that 'foreplay' lol.

It just boggles my mind that yo think what you think of the EVE community (and EVE itself) and you're still here. Elite has been published, why don't we let Elite be elite and let EVE be EVE? Or must everything conform to your particular worldview?

Sibyyl. You of all people I know are the one easiest to trick with good words and niceness.
Always believing in good parts of a person only makes you a target.

And you completely missed the point. Nothing you said has anything to do with this here.

You should rather listen when he speaks his mind freely and doesn't
pay attention to not say something wrong...

Oh, people know it is, they just don't want it to be. There are people in life who are never happy with the way a thing is no matter the actual merits of the thing. I call them the "Change for Change's sake" crowd.

What's funny is that such people tend to be "X game is gonna kill EVE" types, yet when said EVE-killer game launches, the same people remain in EVE when they could be playing a game they actually like.

TL;DR, some people are a bit tapped on the old noggin.

And if you want to play your own way and cry when you get blown up, you have every right to do that too. So many people want to push anyone that doesn't like getting blown up out of the game though, and use that laughable idea that somehow EVE players are elite. EVE players aren't elite. They simply whine about different things, like how unfair it is that NPC corp players don't have to be forced into PVP if they play well, or how when you wardec someone you can't prevent them from playing for a full 7 days.

HAHAHAHAHA **** off. A game of adults? You are actually joking right? The average age of the players might be higher, but the attitude of many players is considerably more childish. Just look at the forums, the ISDs require medals for the level of moderation they have to go through. This whole "we're so 'ard cos EVE is do dark and unforgiving" is laughable. EVE is just as forgiving, just in a different way. EVE players aren't somehow better than any other gamers, just more arrogant.

Perhaps because it's a game? Nobody is unable to play EVE, it's simply a different style of game. Take a FPS player, dump him in a top down strategy and whup his ass repeatedly, he's not gonna have fun. Compound that with laughing in his face and insulting him every time you dunk him with extreme ease, and he's just going to quit. Instead teach him how to more effectively play a strategy game and he'll be able to play to a semi-competent level and he'll be able to enjoy it. You'll even enjoy the actual challenge more.

In the same way, if people got taught in EVE to treat ships more like consumables than assets and got shown how to evade, how to fight, how to not get scammed, and most of the players who get pushed out of the game would adapt very quickly. EVE Players don't want that though, they want to roflstomp all over the noobs so they can act superior.

I'm playing both. I'm not saying I don't like EVE or EVE gets everything wrong. There's plenty of mechanics I think E:D could be improved with which EVE get right. But that goes both ways. EVE clearly has a problem with engaging new players and keeping their income inflated with casual players. E:D not so much. It's highly intuitive and allows people to temporarily opt out of interaction if they feel overwhelmed.

And sure, much of the EVE community I think are complete plebs. I've been playing long enough to not actually care what other people think though, and I enjoy the game the way I like to play it. My issue is that I'd also like other people to enjoy EVE, but those aforementioned plebs tend to alienate everyone they possibly can. Honestly, if I were CCP I'd have banned half the forum posters by now, and to be completely truthful, myself included.

This is the part that doesn't make sense (well, out of all the toher stuff that doesn't make sense lol).

People DO enjoy EVE. The right people ie the people mentally suited to enjoy the kind of game EVE is. I'm not even a 'hunter' (I play as the willy Rabbit that munchs on lettuce but that the big dumb farmers dog can never catch) and I can't get enough of it. I've enjoyed the little of Elite I've played, but I'm just not in to 'starfighter' type games like I was as a kid (I played the hell out of wing commander on SNES, and Star Raiders was the 1st game i ever loved). But it's not EVE.

At the end of the day, the disconnect here is my inability to understand why the part of your post I bolded is your concern. Your inability to accept what EVE is (and who it's aimed at) isn't EVE's fault. This is probably why i have a higher appreciation of the EVE community and EVE itself, I accept that in a free situation, people are going to do things I don't like and behave in ways that i wouldn't, and that's ok. The only thing I can and should do is control my OWN behavior and be aware or my surroundings.

That's pretty much the crux of it. I like EVE, and would like others to like it, and since CCP can't patch player's attitudes, they have to steer them by patching mechanics and enforcing a stronger EULA.

Lol, it's a game. It's something that anyone can learn to play just like any game. It's different to other games in that ships are ammo, but beyond that it's exactly the same as any other game. It doesn't require a certain type of person on a special skill, it's just as game. Even the claims of it's unique single shard nature are exaggerated, since you're effectively instanced in population capped solar systems with shared market and chat. It's pretty much the same way WoWs battle groups are clustered.

It's pretty simple really. It's because the people getting pushed away from the game aren't just people who don't or won't like EVE. I'm sure many of the players pushed away from it would love it if they stuck with it and learned how it's played. But when you join a game which is already quite different to other games you play, then when you have a hard time you get surrounded by a bunch of idiots attacking and insulting you, it's not exactly the environment you want to stick around in to see if you like the game.

Oh, and I accept what EVE is, I just have a hard time believing their target audience is over compensating asshats who like to troll. Maybe it is though, would explain why developers with talent are happy to jump ship.

I want my minute back.