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Thera not pve friendly!

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#221 - 2014-12-17 17:35:18 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Imo it's never a good idea to have to make so many special rules to get people to do something. Interdiction bubbles are a part of null/WH life. They are easy to avoid and even help an attacker (you know that hic is going no where when his bubble is up, so bring friends and you got a guaranteed kill.

Neither are dockable stations but hey there they are. Thera isn't your normal nul/WH friend. It's 3spooky5me.

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The solution to bubble camps is "kill the bubblers", not "ccp please don't let them bubble me". It took me 2 tries to get into Thera but I made it, and already Thera-Centric groups are forming. Just last night I joined a pick up anomaly farming group, i flew a Drake and though we got blobbed i made it out alive and with some loot.

I, too, always fly fit to kill a kitey bubbler and his friends. And I, too, bring the perfect fleet to counter what may be on the other side of a gate and/or hole in every situation.

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Thera is just like EVE in that it is (and only is) what you make of it.

Oi vey.


What your doing here is makign up reasons not to like something. It's fine that you don't like Thera, but I think it's fine, I'm kaing isk out of it and having fun while not dying too much (at least till my luck runs out).
Anslo
Scope Works
#222 - 2014-12-17 17:38:18 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
What your doing here is makign up reasons not to like something.

No, I'm bringing up points I feel make Thera a bit potato that if addressed somehow, someway, might make it more attractive to people than hurr durr killerrythang nerds. Eve has casuals too. Would be nice if they got something out of it.

Also *you're

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It's fine that you don't like Thera, but I think it's fine, I'm kaing isk out of it and having fun while not dying too much (at least till my luck runs out).


How much did you make in how much time anyway? I haven't seen any calculated comparisons to other sources so I'm kinda curious. If it's just basic sleeper loot then it can't be that much right? Unless you found one of those Central Archiver Cerebrums. Then uh....welp.

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#223 - 2014-12-17 18:08:27 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
What your doing here is makign up reasons not to like something.

No, I'm bringing up points I feel make Thera a bit potato that if addressed somehow, someway, might make it more attractive to people than hurr durr killerrythang nerds. Eve has casuals too. Would be nice if they got something out of it.


That's so "think of the children".

I'm 'casual' in Thera and i survive just fine, unless 'casual' means 'I don't need to think'.

Also *you're

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How much did you make in how much time anyway? I haven't seen any calculated comparisons to other sources so I'm kinda curious. If it's just basic sleeper loot then it can't be that much right? Unless you found one of those Central Archiver Cerebrums. Then uh....welp.


I had 100mil isk in this toons wallet when I went to Thera (start up money). I've lost to frigs, and in 2 days had enough plex this account. And I'm not even really trying just yet.

Again, if you have to dumb down Thera to make it more attractive when there are already people in Thera making it work, that's misguided. You don't need a bubble-less Thera, you need less risk averse players.
Anslo
Scope Works
#224 - 2014-12-17 18:11:16 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
I'm 'casual' in Thera and i survive just fine, unless 'casual' means 'I don't need to think'.


MY SIDES

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I had 100mil isk in this toons wallet when I went to Thera (start up money). I've lost to frigs, and in 2 days had enough plex this account. And I'm not even really trying just yet.


OK 2 days is kinda vague. Gimme hours. Like if you made that much in like 2-3 hours, that is pretty baller.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#225 - 2014-12-17 18:41:30 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
I'm 'casual' in Thera and i survive just fine, unless 'casual' means 'I don't need to think'.


MY SIDES

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I had 100mil isk in this toons wallet when I went to Thera (start up money). I've lost to frigs, and in 2 days had enough plex this account. And I'm not even really trying just yet.


OK 2 days is kinda vague. Gimme hours. Like if you made that much in like 2-3 hours, that is pretty baller.





Now now. Be nice.

There are a lot of players who, if they did not make downward assumptions of other players and their intentions, would have NOTHING to base their esteem on. So be nice and let them declare themselves better than everybody else over their own perceptions and play styles lest they log out and start keying new cars or calling the police on their neighbors for every little thing.

CCP means "Crowd Control Productions" after all.

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Alicia Aishai
Perkone
Caldari State
#226 - 2014-12-22 04:37:26 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
I'm 'casual' in Thera and i survive just fine, unless 'casual' means 'I don't need to think'.


MY SIDES

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I had 100mil isk in this toons wallet when I went to Thera (start up money). I've lost to frigs, and in 2 days had enough plex this account. And I'm not even really trying just yet.


OK 2 days is kinda vague. Gimme hours. Like if you made that much in like 2-3 hours, that is pretty baller.



I am a bit with Anslo on this one. I see wild claims from Jenn aSide about making a lot of PVE isk in Thera but not a shred of evidence supporting it.
Understand that everyone has its own money making secret but it would be more convincing if at least we were told generally how so much ISK are made with a "cheap PVE frig"?
Rating -> doubtful in cheap PVE frig and how doing is it in Thera different from any other WH?
Exploring -> maybe but then same question than above. If it is just doing the same as normal WH then why do it in Thera with more hostiles around while there are tons of WH empty 90% of the time.
Mining -> unlikely...
Waltaratzor
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
#227 - 2014-12-22 04:43:38 UTC
Sol Project wrote:
Levina Windstar wrote:
Sol Project wrote:
knobber Jobbler wrote:
I don't know why you'd think it's not PVE friendly. If you can seed that market you're golden.

Market = PvP.


PvP = Thera

Thera = Market.

The forums are just a distraction to keep people from pushing items there.

In reality, the best idea would be to stockpile as much as you can there *now* ...
... before the major onslaught of people who want to cash in on this and prices tank.

The ones earning most are those providing the locals with ships and modules right now.


And the best part about the new industry ...
... is that everyone can build anywhere and a cost naturally balances local industry.

Assuming it's balanced here, that is.




Who is it a market for? Most of its statics are high sec statics and anyone in high sec is better off going to one of the real trade hubs.

Even if you did find a way into it in null or WH space, you can just take one of the high sec statics to get to a real trade hub.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#228 - 2014-12-22 06:22:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Alicia Aishai wrote:


I am a bit with Anslo on this one. I see wild claims from Jenn aSide about making a lot of PVE isk in Thera but not a shred of evidence supporting it.
Understand that everyone has its own money making secret but it would be more convincing if at least we were told generally how so much ISK are made with a "cheap PVE frig"?


I said I lost 2 frigs, I didn't say I used those frigs (Probes) exclusivley to make isk, now did I? You can go to any public kill board and see my (now 3) deaths in Thera (2 probes, 1 Drake). Thera has class 3/4 level content, not too hard for an organized fleet to clear anomalies and fight off the unorganized nubs who try to kill you. It's all fun and games till freaking CFC shows up.

The whole point is to demonstrate that some of us (actually, many of us, most don't post on the forums) aren't crippled by fear and risk aversion in a video game where nothing real (except time) can be lost.

Have you even tried the plentiful anoms and sigs in Thera before you've come to the conclusions you have? Sure it's easier elsewhere, the point here is to show that it's possible even against opposition

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Rating -> doubtful in cheap PVE frig and how doing is it in Thera different from any other WH?
Exploring -> maybe but then same question than above. If it is just doing the same as normal WH then why do it in Thera with more hostiles around while there are tons of WH empty 90% of the time.
Mining -> unlikely...


Why do it in Thera? Because this is a video game and some of us aren't scared to damn death of a challenge (or imaginary loss)?
Neth'Rae
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#229 - 2014-12-22 10:50:19 UTC
Sol Project wrote:
Neth'Rae wrote:
I find it ironic that it's a sisters of eve system, yet it's the most brutal and cutthroat place in eve.
Would have made a bit more sense if it was a pirate free haven..

How does "brutal and cutthroat" combine with "pirate free" ?



Not pirate-free haven, Pirate free-haven..
Like ruled by pirates and stuff..
Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#230 - 2014-12-22 13:53:22 UTC
Neth'Rae wrote:
Sol Project wrote:
Neth'Rae wrote:
I find it ironic that it's a sisters of eve system, yet it's the most brutal and cutthroat place in eve.
Would have made a bit more sense if it was a pirate free haven..

How does "brutal and cutthroat" combine with "pirate free" ?



Not pirate-free haven, Pirate free-haven..
Like ruled by pirates and stuff..

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Signal11th
#231 - 2014-12-22 15:23:02 UTC
I have to agree with Jenn on this one, Thera this or Thera that.... It doesn't even matter..Thera isn't there for you to like it it's just there.

If you don't like it well then tough too bad go somewhere else in the game, CCP doesn't owe you anything in regards to this system, it's there and that's all there is to it. You make of it like the rest of the game allows you to do.

I've been there didn't think much of it and am now back to my usual stuff. I don't need CCP to spoon feed me stuff like in other games and tbh I get alarmed everytime the game gets altered just because it seems the vast majority of players either seem to lazy or stupid to figure stuff out.

Why on earth would you expcet to enter a wormhole system and be allowed to rat without any hassle from anyone else? You can't in any other wormhole system unless you are prepared. Personally as I've mentioned before I'm happy Thera is there because it attracts egits like a moth to a flame and thats egits I don't have to deal with so it's a thumbs up from me!

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#232 - 2014-12-22 15:31:19 UTC
Signal11th wrote:
I have to agree with Jenn on this one, Thera this or Thera that.... It doesn't even matter..Thera isn't there for you to like it it's just there.

If you don't like it well then tough too bad go somewhere else in the game, CCP doesn't owe you anything in regards to this system, it's there and that's all there is to it. You make of it like the rest of the game allows you to do.


The problem is that so people are so self-centered that they think that CCP exists to please THEM (and them alone). So when CCP introduces something and they end up not liking it, instead of just going and playing somewhere they do like, they ***** about it and try to get CCP to modify it to fit them.

It happened with Incursions. I remember on dude on thos forum who damn near jumped through his screen because you can't solo incursion sites and that's wrong because why should he have to play with other people in an MMO lol. Some still do the same with null sec (I can't conquer a system solo or with my 10 man corp therefore null is broken).

Not saying that everyone who has an opinion about Thera is like that....but most are like that.

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I've been there didn't think much of it and am now back to my usual stuff. I don't need CCP to spoon feed me stuff like in other games and tbh I get alarmed everytime the game gets altered just because it seems the vast majority of players either seem to lazy or stupid to figure stuff out.

Why on earth would you expcet to enter a wormhole system and be allowed to rat without any hassle from anyone else? You can't in any other wormhole system unless you are prepared. Personally as I've mentioned before I'm happy Thera is there because it attracts egits like a moth to a flame and thats egits I don't have to deal with so it's a thumbs up from me!



People expect to be left alone because that's what they want and somehow they live in a world where what they want actually matters lol. I'd like to visit that world someday, i just can't find it because I live in the real world lol.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#233 - 2014-12-23 00:12:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
So, I've been gone a while ... isn't "PvE content" just "Player vs. Everyone"?

Sounds like Thera's right on the mark then ...


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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#234 - 2014-12-23 00:27:49 UTC
It's perfectly fine if you don't forget to activate your ECCM.

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