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We want your corp little things!

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Warlof Tutsimo
Daerie Inc.
#341 - 2014-12-21 19:58:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Warlof Tutsimo
Gempei wrote:
no small things, big things, new corp management please :)


everything is here ^^

corp' management ui suxe :(

first by replacing the table + checkbox mechanism by a tree view / category with name AND DESCRIPTION and illustrate granted role by a red cross / green check instead the checkbox...

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Removing division limit ? I've thousand container in those div just to extend them and make somethink more readable :(

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Make Log container logging everything and not only if items are lock/unlock...
Currently, log container are quite useless because we need to se pwd and lock items which are puts inside them. But when you need to pick items from it, you need to unlock it.

If you want make something free access but still get an eye on it, you can't.
Or you need to share a password to everybody and think to reshare it foreach new mate...

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Corp member chart where CEO/Director can drag/drop people as child of a parent could be a great feature.

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Corp internal market on which member can put buy/sell order (accessible only by corp or alliance membre)

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Add job output result in the industry UI

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Make contract from item inside container possible

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In corp research tool, add a "in alliance" check, and not only "not in"...

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Add the possiblity to check items inside container when they are inside corp assets division

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Add a list of input location instead only one input location for crafting jobs. We're sorting well or items, and sometime we need to pack components with minerals in order to run a job... :(

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Charts ?

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USN CVN73
Evil Dutch Bastards
System Wide Adaptive Roam Massacres
#342 - 2014-12-21 21:17:10 UTC
one thing i am sure others have asked would be to kick members even though they are out in space. Could be interesting.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#343 - 2014-12-21 23:14:33 UTC
Allow people to join NPC corporations they want, like Caldari Navy or other, non default ones.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#344 - 2014-12-21 23:23:13 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Hi,

we want to know what are your biggest pain points in the corp interface so please post below with some nice examples

Big smileShockedBig smileShockedBig smile


You're asking for 'little things' regarding our biggest pain in the corp interface. Seems kinda like asking to patch a severed artery with a bandaid. There's a lot of BIG things that need overhauling.

Many of these revolve around the role system, but more variety in hangars, or the ability to create hangars that could be assigned base on roles would be pretty nice. Same for wallets. Clearer functionality with roles relating to POSes, would be big too.
Mar'Dur Taren
The Copernicus Institute
#345 - 2014-12-22 08:42:57 UTC
Wow a corporation fix list. Where do I begin? I haven't had time to check the ideas of everyone else but just consider double ups a statement of need. Lets just start listing things....

  • Allow trading from the corporation hangars.
  • Allow ships to be fitted in the corp hangar using fittings in the hangar [auto fit option].
  • When Delivering an item to a corp member from the hangars, provide a search filter on the list of members.
  • Have a log entry created when items are Delivered from the corp hangar to a member [using the “Deliver to member” option]. Log can go to a text file in the logs folder.
  • Allow the corp asset search to use partial search terms.
  • Allow the corp asset search to see inside cans in a corp hangar.
  • Allow containers to hold much more than 1000 blueprint copies. [Not really a corp upgrade but affects corps most since they make lots of BPCs]
  • Have Corp asset search declare which hangar division the item is in in the search results.
  • Sort In Space Assets into POS groups so you know what is with which.
  • Allow corporation shares to be traded in contracts or on the regional markets [or even better create a share market].
  • Give Corps more hangar divisions.
  • Give Corps more wallet divisions.
  • Give Corps more Titles to create/edit.
  • Give corps more bulletins.
  • Allow more characters in the bulletins [ie longer messages].
  • Allow corps to mark corp orders on the market so all members know if they are selling/buying to/from corp. [A private corporation/alliance market would be even better].
  • When entering the Recruitment > Search Tab, do not auto search. This lags out as it searches without filters when you first enter. Provide a “Search” button so people can filter first.
  • Allow more characters in Corporation adverts.
  • Allow formatting and links in Corporation adverts.
  • Fix the Last Online column in the Members list so it doesn't mark people as offline for the wrong length of time [compared to last offline time].
  • Allow mass assignment of decorations.
  • Allow special assignment of decorations to non-corp members [these would require being Accepted by target].
  • Allow decorations to be linked in Chat/Mail/Notes/Bulletins/Bios/etc. Have the link show the description and the medal graphic itself.
  • Allow people to create Draft Decorations for discussion and linking before finalization.
  • Create a role that allows the barer to have one vote in Corpwide votes. These votes would use the current voting mechanism but be for corp defined things not for corp management things like the current shares. Votes would be customizable. Do not link War Decs/ Lock/unlock BPOs/CEO votes etc to this mechanism.
  • When you vote on an issue, prevent the system closing all the other votes you may have opened in the voting screen.
  • Create a Wallet mechanism that automatically transfers money to another wallet when the target wallet reaches a set total. [I want to siphon money off a sales wallet to a secure wallet when the sales wallet hits a certain level.]
  • Allow stacking of items in the deliveries hangar. Make it available from the Assets screen so it can be done remotely.
  • Allow people to transfer goods to the deliveries hangar without needing to use a contract. This allows people to make corp contracts without needing a corp hangar at the subject station.
  • Allow people to drag a link of locked blueprints into text fields such as chat and have the blueprint show the correct stats.
  • Allow the industry screen to Condense/Expand the list of cans in each Corp Hangar when selecting source and destination for components/end products.
  • Currently the role to allow people to access containers in a hangar also allows them to remove the container and modify it. Please provide an intermediate access level that will be permitted to see into and remove small numbers of items from containers but cannot remove whole container or all contents in one go.
  • Please provide an indicator in the Recruitment Page to show whether an invitation to corp is still current, expired or rejected. Include a timer on the current ones.
  • Proved the same reinforcement timer mechanism on POS that currently exist on POCOs. [ie. A corp can set an approximate time for a POS to come out of reinforcement]
  • Permit CEOs/Directors to add more headings to the corp forums on the Eve-O forums. Allow subheadings.
  • Fix the "Receive Notifications" setting in the Corp Forums provided by Eve-O. This feature is not working. Bug report has been sent.
  • Fix the map filter setting that shows the location of Corp Members in the star map.
  • Currently the corp may pay dividends to either the shares or to all corp members. Allow for a "Stakeholder" role that includes a pilot in a third dividend payment option. This allows you to remove people that are inactive and count a player once regardless of how many alts they have in corp.
  • Allow for very long term corp only contracts or contracts to cor members.
  • Allow for mass renaming of containers in a corp hangar.
  • Create a mechanism that will allow a corp to sell "Bonds" which are a physical item and pay regular interest to those bonds. These items would have no voting rights. Allow these items to be traded via contracts. Create a listing in the corp screen of all pilots owning a bond [much like shares listing or decorations listing]
  • Add a button to the Corporation > Assets > Deliveries tab that stacks everything in all deliveries hangars.
  • Add an item count to the Deliveries entries on the Corporation > Assets > Deliveries tab.
  • Create an access log for each corp hangar listing who and what was taken/added.
  • Allow Construction arrays to be assigned to individuals or sub-groups permitting access only to those pilots.
  • Allow projects in the industry jobs window to classified with a security rating so only certain ranks/roles can see them.

Proud to be a Boffin!

Maenth
The Thirteen Provinces
#346 - 2014-12-22 08:56:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Maenth
Taxes and tax controls!

Placing whole-interger X % corp tax on ???? is not good!!
I don't really know what that tax is taxing and what it's not!
- Allow some decimals for the tax amounts
- Give separate taxation control for: pirate bounties, capsuleer bounties, manufacturing jobs, research jobs
- Advanced title-level taxation modifications/settings onto corp members, like "that guy really contributes a lot for the corp, so he deserves a tax break"

It would be nice to have personal storage in pos arrays in addition to corp hangars, and then maybe players could be granted access to those facilities without immediately granting access to more valuable corporate assets ... probably easier, allow personal hangar array to be input&output location for industry jobs ... and maybe give us the ability to tax 'personal' POS jobs separately from 'corp-owned' pos jobs

That would certainly allow industrial corps to progress more smoothly with newer players incorporation and development, allowing them to be granted use of POS facilities casually and easily without having them mingle their belongings with other players' or corp assets, and also not having to worry so much about whether they have the right titles and roles/accesses.

Control and Use of Shares!

Unless corp shares get removed entirely, allow a corp to reclaim or modify shares in some more ways... for example, I know that some people I've traded shares with have stopped playing EVE and I can't contact them any other way; to my knowledge there's no way for me/my corp to recover the shares distributed to them, so to be fair to all of the 'living' shareholders I have to just not use shares at all and manually pay dividends ... in other words, the shares are now useless, worthless!

Corporate Market Orders and market controls

Myself and friendly industrial/market contacts sometimes talk about how great it would be to have corporate visibility and control of market orders. Especially the many of us who have multiple characters in the same corporation all doing both industry and market works. Of course it makes sense that each character should personally start jobs/create market orders; industry has been taken care of in that anybody with the right roles can deliver industry jobs and view their progress, but with market orders placed on behalf of the corporation it's impossible to see (manage) them on a corp level.

I've often wanted to manage my multitudes of market orders in customized ways, similar to the quick list of the market browser. It would be good for both corps and individuals to have a nice way to see what market orders they have active and recently completed in customized groupings rather than just one or two loooong lists. For example, before a big alliance battle I might prioritize ammo and fuel, and then after the battle I'm more concerned with modules and implants and production materials.

I also think it would be pretty cool/handy to adjust the Quantity value of a market buy order, and also for sale orders to add or remove stock in sale orders ... without having to completely cancel and re-make the market order. The system now is like going to the store and seeing them take ALL of a certain item off the shelves and sending them to the storage area for restock instead of someone coming by with the few they need and adding them to the shelves, madness!

Internal Corp Information Pages

It would be really swell to have multiple pages like corp description. There's the one page which is the public display, of course, but it would be really helpful to have some info pages/tabs for regularly accessible information strictly for internal purposes that allows for more detail and more readily accessible... so we could post things like "this is our current deployment zone" and "these are the products we're producing currently" and "this is the area we want to control" and "here's how to get on our TS channel and forum" ... without directors having to send a mail every time a detail changes and/or corp members having to find one of hundreds of EVEmails to find those details whenever they're needed, or relying on a MOTD in the corp channel which may have scrolled away after an hour of talking there, or having to log-in to an external forum

Drones. Drones are a means to an end. An end to the ruthless Caldari 'progress' machines. An end to the barbaric 'redemption' proposed by the Amarr. What they see as chaos shall be my perfect order, merely beyond their comprehension.

Alner Greyl
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#347 - 2014-12-22 09:02:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Alner Greyl
1) More chracters in bulletins
2) Shares. WTF is this? That's a cool thing for changing CEO but in other ways it's pointless and useless thing.
3) Communication officer role - right now it allows change info in corp and alliance (bulletins and mails) not a bad idea to divide corp and alliance.
4) Change "chosen executor" to "Chosen executor" in alliance window Roll
5) No tips for roles - I still don't understand what each role does without reading wiki. Tips can be cool
6) Setting roles. Everytime when you make new roles you need to test it with all hangars and options because you aren't sure what you just set. Change interface like: This role can access: a, b, c, (yeah we have such thing, but i'm thinking about something more simple)
7) Hangars. Pls add more hangars or give a chance to divide hangars to sections :) In most corps corp hangar is big scrapyard
8) Active button "view more" even you don't have info there.
9) Corp wallets. Allow adding more wallets for automatical bills. Not only Master wallet. Pls. Show bills in calendar.
10) Crazy idea. Add button like "ALT" that can asign title or table with alts. So for example corp has 50 members. One dude has 5 alts. For directors it will be easy to find who is alt and who is main for these toons. Plus this will have positive effect on corp management in general
11) Decorations. As I remember only ceo can manage them. And this is sad when you need to make a decoration and you can't because CEO is lazy. (i'm not sure about roles. really)
12) Market orders. Add table with corp orders. This makes me mad that every time I need to login to my alt and check what I have in corp orders etc
13) I always wanted a table in corp window with active corp/alliance contracts without going to contracts
14) Stack deliveries.
15) Allow repair through corp hangar. It's annoying when you need to take items to your hangar, repair them and return back to corp hangar
16) Reinforce timers. I'm not about enemy stuff. But corp stuff in space - will be awesome.
17) Logs for hangars. Like "this dude took this" It will be helpful to find where is the corp stuff right now.
18) Personal corp pos. For example corp has 10 pos. 4 of them are corp owned and 6 of them are running reactions. In some situations (i'm sure that's not me alone) you don't need to have access to corp pos settings but you need to manage your reaction pos because you are doing it for corp. Idea is: list of all pos with list of names who runs this pos and who is responsible for this pos. Sure it can be few toons. What it can give: ceo/director/ppl with roles can understand who f**ked up with stuff or who you need to ask about something.Plus member who runs pos can manage it without giving access to setting for other POS. Bad idea for thieves Big smile

Oops That what I remembered. Sorry didn't read all pages so my ideas could be repeated in previous posts.
cpt Niki
Perkone
Caldari State
#348 - 2014-12-22 09:42:32 UTC
I want something like Active Directory

Make some OUs put there some pilots give them some GPO for default rights

make some security roles and assign them to specific pilots hangars wallets etc.

There are so many things I'll try to get a list later, but my point is that a corp management should be redone from scratch with everything option giving you the freedom to be customized.
Selest Cayal
Nex Exercitus
#349 - 2014-12-22 09:55:07 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
As mentioned in may other places:

Corp permissions aren't fine grained enough, and management through titles isn't flexible enough.

Ideally you would have the ability to grant permissions to groups, which can have other groups as members (nested) with the permissions flowing down to users. (With both allow and deny privileges. Deny overrides any number of allows)

Permissions should be possible down to the structure level, with inheritance from a number of levels.

So you can grant privileges to a group, for an individual POS. Or for an individual structure at a POS. Or for every POS in a particular Constellation. or so on.

Ideally you'd have a simple privilege model (similar to the current one) and a fine grained one (you can add fuel, but not unanchor) to allow people to manage it appropriately.

With this, you'd need a Resultant Set of Privileges tool, so get a privilege list for a user, on a particular thing.

(yes, much of this is lifted from the Windows file system/POSIX privilege model)

Oh, and APIs to manage it Smile


While it's not an interface thing:

new types of group are needed.

Cross Corp social groups, which bundle a mailing list, bulletins, possibly a wallet, group management (for privileges on the group resources), fleet invites restricted to the group and a chat channel. With proper searching so people can find them. (handy for RvB Ganked, Spectre Fleet and so on)


I can get behind this post.

role management is really bad and hard to work with as it is now.
Shen Curtis
Black Rise Distribution Service
#350 - 2014-12-22 10:21:03 UTC
Everything mentioned above.

But I would have small ideas aswell:

- the ability to mark corporation orders in market

- the ability to POCO taxes with Corp Cash

- sum the estimated prices in corporation assets - if you hover above something, it is showing the estimated. Why not sum everything in that specific place? It's getting easier to put up courier contracts instead of using evepraisal all day.

Greetings,
Shen

Doing proper business since 2008.

Shen Curtis
Black Rise Distribution Service
#351 - 2014-12-22 10:24:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Shen Curtis
Maenth wrote:
Control and Use of Shares!

Unless corp shares get removed entirely, allow a corp to reclaim or modify shares in some more ways... for example, I know that some people I've traded shares with have stopped playing EVE and I can't contact them any other way; to my knowledge there's no way for me/my corp to recover the shares distributed to them, so to be fair to all of the 'living' shareholders I have to just not use shares at all and manually pay dividends ... in other words, the shares are now useless, worthless!


I am using shares a lot, take a look here.
The big problem is, it's always a matter of trust, which it should not be.

Doing proper business since 2008.

Mar'Dur Taren
The Copernicus Institute
#352 - 2014-12-22 10:58:01 UTC
Oh I forgot.

Have a notes field on Characters, Corporations and Alliances that can be seen/shared by all directors/CEOs/Diplomats.

Proud to be a Boffin!

GeeShizzle MacCloud
#353 - 2014-12-22 11:15:09 UTC  |  Edited by: GeeShizzle MacCloud
CCP Punkturis / CCP Sharq...

im concerned such low hanging fruit would be superseded when the role management / corp management is completely overhauled. Is this likely to be the case or is what you plan on tackling based on what people suggest here likely to persist past the overhaul?

ty in advance <3

also...
Mar'Dur Taren wrote:

Have a notes field on Characters, Corporations and Alliances that can be seen/shared by all directors/CEOs/Diplomats.


You have no idea how important this would be especially for corp recruitment and recruiters in different timezones.
Being able to attach notes on characters that are shared with others (either internally in corp by roles/titles or by corp/alliance or standing lvl would be awesome) would make corp recruitment so much less of a taxing job and would mean less reliance on external tools like blacklists and continually expanding threads on forums.
qckrnu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#354 - 2014-12-22 12:26:54 UTC
Defender missiles? WTF are they?

Not that many people field missiles at the moment but can we either get a viable buff or just turf them altogether?
Super Hippy
Backwater Redux
Tactical Narcotics Team
#355 - 2014-12-22 14:53:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Super Hippy
The ability to easily and confidently assign rights and access for anything and everything in a corp is hard to figure out. The assign roles by title can be confusing.

Just a thought but would it be possible to set up corp management with a road map. Like how ISIS is with ships could the Roles and divisions be broken down in to a road map of sorts with a visual that can be turned on or off *lit up or dimmed*. You could then set up members with rights easily by going down the map, seeing what they are able to do by the lit up icons, take from station X, View only Station y, Fuel pos z, ect ect

The main thing is just knowing what people can and cannot do and what roles would give them access to what they need to do. KISS method
Jared Khanar
#356 - 2014-12-22 15:26:30 UTC
havent read all above so just if this hasnt been mentioned before - maybe also hardening the sociel aspects of corporations :

- Comments in bulletins? have a little, clientintegrated corporation board
- Better EVE Voice integration: CorpChannelVoice overview tab like some sort of teamspeakoverviewer with management and administration abilities

Economic Services

trading spacepixels

Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
#357 - 2014-12-22 15:37:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Tronic
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Jack Tronic wrote:
Remove the default corp divisions you guys literally have hardcoded. Make them add/remove. It can't be that hard to have a database table to store the divisions since you probably associate the divisions as a container ID anyway somewhere.



Nope. it's a bitmap flag on the item. so it's just a /wee/ bit more complicated than you think. It makes things far simpler when you want to total up the volume inside a thing (like a pos array) across all the hangars.


Maybe faster(arguable but depends on database engine supporting bitmask operations) but simpler? Doubt it.
Spookzor 4-Eyes
Grey Templars
#358 - 2014-12-22 15:52:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Spookzor 4-Eyes
I would like to be able too see the contents of corporate hangar arrays and ship maintenance arrays in space via the corporation menu. Would be easier to keep track of items and such within them without having to travel to them. Since the corp already owns them I should be able to see what is in them.
Jake S
Black Rose Inc.
Black Rose.
#359 - 2014-12-22 15:56:48 UTC
A small thing to fix, the UI for voting.

- Add the subject/description of the vote to the voting screen.
- Highlight, bold, or somehow visibly mark the votes that the user has already participated in.
- Stop closing out the expanded view with every vote.


I challenge the dev team to lock and unlock 200+ BPOs with the current voting UI.
Lanayscha
NOVEC.
#360 - 2014-12-22 16:14:32 UTC
A Wish from my CEO:
Detailed Login Statistics for the CEO.

The Idea is to gauge the activity of a member, when was the member on, for what duration. An these statistics for a timeframe of a month would be a great tool for a CEO to really check the activity of members. The current system only shows the last login. Even if the last login was yesterday, if yesterday was another month then you get "Last Online: last month" even though it was one day (e.g. roll over from 31.12. to 01.01.).