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Harvest Implants need a Buff

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Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-10-30 16:22:57 UTC
(Ive just read Asuka Solo post on PI which makes everything else pitiful)


the Harvest Implants that you can get from the Ore LP store are some of the most overpriced underused Implants in the game.

They increase the range of your mining lasers for the cost of between 2.5-4.5 billion isk. There are never any to be seen on the market and hardly ever on contracts and they never seem to sell/ All that isk can be migated by simply having a few book marks in system.


Changes

1. Keep the price exactly the same but give them a yield bonus as well. For there price and rarity it would have to be high, say up to 20-30% for the full set.

2. This would not decrease the price of the mineral basket as they would still be rare and only of concern to career miners.

3. If it was known that people had them then they would be a primary target for gankers due to the new mechanism of Implants on killmails.

4. No one will sent their mining BOT out in these as its far to dangerous and already mitigated by bookmarks. It would be for the career miner only.

5. It would make mining a more profitable venture but only for the career miner. for everyone else it would still be as terrible as it already is

Overall. it would not change very much in game but it would give these implants the boost they need to become useful.
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-10-30 16:54:42 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
sell/ All that isk can be migated by simply having a few book marks in system.


There's actually an easier way to make mining life a bit easier.

Warp from the station to the belt at 100km and create a bookmark on your location.

Then jump back to the station.

THEN, warp to 100km from your bookmark, erase the old bookmark and make a new one.

Now, you can see the asteroids on your overview and can warp straight to the asteroid itself.

it's a lot easier than bookmarking the individual roids.

you'll be able to warp to any asteroid anywhere in the belt.
Grojar Flesp
SQS Group
#3 - 2011-12-17 19:34:02 UTC
He there,

I was wondering about this myself, not necessarily about the price, but more if there is a 'normal' Harvest set coming anytime soon. These give a +2 across the board if i'm not mistaking, but they are very bad compared with standard or improved implants. That hardly makes up for the benefits:
Alpha: 1% to range (10% bonus to secondary effects)
Beta: 2%
Delta: 4%
Epsilon: 5%
Gamma: 3%

Omega: 25% for secondary effects.

So all in all it would give you:
15%
+ 1.5% (10 % secondary effects for set)
+ 3% (25% secondary effects, if calculated on the nett set bonus)
19.5% Which would give you about 2925 meters extra range (on a standard tech 2 stripminer). The only reason not to buy this is the the bad attribute enhancement.

So.....when is there a full 'normal' set of Harvest implants coming? Besides that questions, when are there more industry hardwiring implants coming? Not necessarily on range, but rather on mining amount?

Regards,

Me
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#4 - 2011-12-17 20:13:56 UTC
Joe Risalo wrote:
Karn Dulake wrote:
sell/ All that isk can be migated by simply having a few book marks in system.


There's actually an easier way to make mining life a bit easier.

Warp from the station to the belt at 100km and create a bookmark on your location.

Then jump back to the station.

THEN, warp to 100km from your bookmark, erase the old bookmark and make a new one.

Now, you can see the asteroids on your overview and can warp straight to the asteroid itself.

it's a lot easier than bookmarking the individual roids.

you'll be able to warp to any asteroid anywhere in the belt.


Smashing

the

enter

key

a

bit

too

much

again.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#5 - 2011-12-17 20:44:43 UTC
Harvest set isn't easy to get -- there are only a few ORE stations out in Outer Ring (IIRC, 3 or 4). It's not exactly "easy" to mission in nullsec in order to get the necessary LP.

If you want the implants, look up Outer Ring Excavations and find one of their settled systems. Good luck getting through the pipe though (last time I did it, there were two gatecamps with bubbles, and three nubs without bubbles).

TBH, there's nothing wrong with the set.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Grojar Flesp
SQS Group
#6 - 2011-12-17 22:05:43 UTC
Emperor Salazar wrote:
Joe Risalo wrote:
Karn Dulake wrote:
sell/ All that isk can be migated by simply having a few book marks in system.


There's actually an easier way to make mining life a bit easier.

Warp from the station to the belt at 100km and create a bookmark on your location.

Then jump back to the station.

THEN, warp to 100km from your bookmark, erase the old bookmark and make a new one.

Now, you can see the asteroids on your overview and can warp straight to the asteroid itself.

it's a lot easier than bookmarking the individual roids.

you'll be able to warp to any asteroid anywhere in the belt.


Smashing

the

enter

key

a

bit

too

much

again.


:-D Next time, use any key.
Grojar Flesp
SQS Group
#7 - 2011-12-17 22:14:03 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Harvest set isn't easy to get -- there are only a few ORE stations out in Outer Ring (IIRC, 3 or 4). It's not exactly "easy" to mission in nullsec in order to get the necessary LP.

If you want the implants, look up Outer Ring Excavations and find one of their settled systems. Good luck getting through the pipe though (last time I did it, there were two gatecamps with bubbles, and three nubs without bubbles).

TBH, there's nothing wrong with the set.



I may agree that doing the missions to get enough LP to buy them from ORE will take you a long time, far too long, and besides they haven't got too many settled systems, so.....agreed. My apologies.

The thing I don't agree with is that there is nothing wrong with them. Their attribute part (+2) is a bit lacking, I would have liked to have them at +3 and I may be interested in buying them. Secondly they are only concerned with range, not with the other two (duration or mining amount).

But what about the (mining) hardwiring implants? There is only the Highwall HX-2 (slot 10) and the Michi's Excavation Augmentor (slot 7)?

Regards,

me again.



LTC Vuvovich
Old-Timers Department
GF Company
#8 - 2011-12-18 02:22:59 UTC
Tisk tisk... those of you whom lack the vision which is necessary to see the benefit of owning these implants are in need of Puffs... indeed. Imagine yourself pulling into just about any roid belt in high-sec and most in lo-sec as well, being able to shoot nearly every roid in that belt from one single position. What ever they cost... they will pay for themselves 10 fold if you mine long enough. And you will do it quicker than everyone around cuz you my good fellows... you do so because you do not have to go to the roids... with a complete Harvest set... the roids come to YOU.

Add this to all the other mining implants AND... the 'new' T2 Mining Foreman Gang-Links... well well... what more can I say.