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Christmas Gift Market Speculation?

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Miss Margin
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#41 - 2011-12-14 17:25:28 UTC
I'm curious about how even the distribution of the CA-1 vs the CA-2s are which could affect the longer term price of both. I imagine there are less CA-1due to more people signing up/reactivating after they were given out. But with this option it may be the opposite or reach equilibrium as people try to get the one they missed.

It'd be interesting to see how the market is affected if there were say 20% more of one than the y other.

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Sleekman
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2011-12-14 17:36:36 UTC
Remap is back, best option.
Jas Dor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2011-12-14 17:37:10 UTC
Unless the remap gets reenabled I'm probably going for the specialty implant. I missed it the first time around and want to sect for collectors value.

Miss Margin
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#44 - 2011-12-14 17:47:37 UTC
Sleekman wrote:
Remap is back, best option.


And it's a +1 remap. It doesn't affect your 365 day timer.

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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#45 - 2011-12-14 21:55:56 UTC
If I read it correctly, it's even better.
It's bonus remap you can keep until the end of times to use in some much later emergency while still remapping as many times as you want as long as you let more than a year pass between remaps.
Basically, the awesomest possible version.

Waiting for 100% confirmation.
Omniwing
No-Mercy
Shadow Ultimatum
#46 - 2011-12-14 22:40:08 UTC
Can we confirm this, and if so, its probably the best choice, right?
OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
#47 - 2011-12-14 23:22:03 UTC
The Dev Blog and thread confirm it, go for the remap babyAttention
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#48 - 2011-12-15 14:02:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Akita T
Quote:
Bonus remaps never expire. After the code update, there will be two ways to remap:

* You will be able to remap normally. This option is only available for use when a year has elapsed from your last "normal remap".

* You will be able to instantly remap by using a "bonus remap" - these are the same as the remaps that newbies receive when they create their characters. When switching to the new system, you will keep any bonus remaps you had previously, and these will never expire.

When remapping, the system will first see if you can remap normally (on the annual timer). If you can, it will set your remapping timer and permit you to remap. That timer will then begin ticking down, and, one year later, you will be able to remap normally again.

If your timer is ticking, then the system requires you to use a bonus remap in order to remap your attributes. If you do not have any, you have to wait.

If you elect to use a bonus remap, your timer will not be affected.

Let's say that you have no bonus remaps at all - you've used up your newbie bonus remaps and haven't received any since. If you remapped normally on the 1st of December, 2011, you will then have to wait until the 1st of December, 2012 in order to remap again normally.

If you take the neural remapping Christmas gift, then you can use that bonus remap to remap at any time between when you receive the gift and the 1st of December, 2012. If you do so, then you will still be able to remap your attributes normally on the 1st of December, 2012. If you decide to wait until past the 1st of December, 2012 - let's say to the 2nd of December, 2012, then you will remap normally and not use your bonus remap.


Relevant things :
* Bonus remaps are COMPLETELY separate from normal remaps - you can remap normally without using a bonus remap
* Bonus remaps never expire - keep them until you really need them (or as a badge of sorts if you like)

Clearly, the best choice for all people that are NOT in dire need of some ISK
(since everything else is worth well under 100 mil ISK no matter what else you pick).
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#49 - 2011-12-15 14:35:34 UTC
The remap option (which I did choose), does it give each char on the account an additional remap, or just the char with the highest SP?
Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies
#50 - 2011-12-15 14:54:13 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
The remap option (which I did choose), does it give each char on the account an additional remap, or just the char with the highest SP?

Previous bonus remaps have been for the highest SP character on the account rather than for each character. I assume it will be the same this time.

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#51 - 2011-12-15 15:18:36 UTC
Jackie Fisher wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
The remap option (which I did choose), does it give each char on the account an additional remap, or just the char with the highest SP?

Previous bonus remaps have been for the highest SP character on the account rather than for each character. I assume it will be the same this time.


Thanks for the response. That will help with my skill-planning.
Chu Ran
Perkone
Caldari State
#52 - 2011-12-15 17:47:21 UTC
Regarding bonus remaps, I don't see a separate option ingame to use the "normal" remap versus a "bonus" remap. Are the codes updated yet to separate the two completely ingame?
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#53 - 2011-12-16 23:12:09 UTC
Chu Ran wrote:
Regarding bonus remaps, I don't see a separate option ingame to use the "normal" remap versus a "bonus" remap. Are the codes updated yet to separate the two completely ingame?

No, not yet, but they will be by the time they distribute it.
At least that's the plan.
Ghoest
#54 - 2011-12-17 14:00:37 UTC
Hmm. Ive never used a remap. My main has 3 of them. Are you saying if i was to use one I would have to wait a year to use another? Or are those 3 already whats considered "bonus" remaps?

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#55 - 2011-12-17 14:09:49 UTC
Ghoest wrote:
Hmm. Ive never used a remap. My main has 3 of them. Are you saying if i was to use one I would have to wait a year to use another? Or are those 3 already whats considered "bonus" remaps?


They'll either handle it by saying one of those 3 is a regular annual one and you now have 1 normal 2 bonus, or they'll just tag all 3 as bonus like they're doing with new toons 2 starting maps.

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fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2011-12-17 19:14:59 UTC
the fuel blocks will render goons efforts pretty useless for a while i'd imagine.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#57 - 2011-12-17 19:17:09 UTC
fuer0n wrote:
the fuel blocks will render goons efforts pretty useless for a while i'd imagine.


Gallente towers use Gallente fuel blocks. Gallente fuel blocks are built with Oxytopes. How does this mess with the Great Ice Famine of 2011?

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fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2011-12-17 19:27:37 UTC  |  Edited by: fuer0n
forgive me if i'm wrong but isnt trying to push the price up of ice materials what goons are doing? then ccp come along and magic some out of thin air and inject it into the market?

i dont take much notice of what goons do tbh, i just read the forums from time to time. might have got the wrong end of the stick.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#59 - 2011-12-17 19:30:54 UTC
fuer0n wrote:
forgive me if i'm wrong but isnt trying to push the price up of ice materials what goons are doing? then ccp come along and magic some out of thin air and inject it into the market?

i dont take much notice of what goons do tbh, i just read the forums from time to time. might have got the wrong end of the stick.


You mean the magic 25 hours of POS fuel per account? I doubt that'll do much.

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fuer0n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2011-12-17 19:34:36 UTC
either way someone got biatch slapped Big smile and dipends how many people take up the offer doesnt it.