EVE General Discussion

I've never multiboxed through automation, no. I'm not a botter. So I don't know exactly the process of which software to use, the model numbers on the hardware to use and all that jazz.

What I do know is that this famous CCP endorsed botter uses 1 keyboard and mouse (and yes, I've seen the pics of his setup) to automate gameplay on multiple accounts by reproducing movements on one account. The technical side is irrelevant. He's playing 1 account and botting dozens of others.

So you are the kind of guy that walks everywhere, and when you see someone driving in a car you get mad at him because he is cheating at locomotion?

Solo incursions.

Technically you're not turning a profit when you spend 20000$ on a NASA mainframe just to win at EVE

Thinking outside of 25 Boxes to be precise.

http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/poweredge-t710/pd

with less than a quarter of that you can run 25 clients with a slightly modified version of this sucker.

Looking at the replies, I wonder why this is considered acceptable while other pay to win scenarios aren't.

If I hire 20 servants to play my 20 accounts and shout orders at them to do what I say "Jump"; "Fire" etc, this would fall under botting too according to your definition. And if we go as far as that, aren't all FC's botting than as well? Fleet members all do what the FC says; "Fire", "Warp to X", "Jump", etc?

It's not automation, it's forking of inputs.
Automation is "smart" (some degree of adaptability, ability to follow directives, anything like that), what he does is as "dumb" as it can be (merely entering the same commands on all boxes).
What he does is essentially a virtual/electronic version of an elaborate mechanical contraption containing 25 mice and 25 keyboards.
Since the mechanical system would be perfectly legit, and since the virtual one is practically the exact same thing, no, it's not TECHNICALLY botting, it's not even macroing (and limited forms of macroing, like that provided by G15 keyboards or such ARE ALSO ALLOWED).

He's also highly susceptible to slight differences in timings from one box to another box, distance differences and so on and so forth. Plus, when one of them pops... ouch.

P.S. Having 25 people in front of 25 separate machines and you yelling commands at them would accomplish pretty much the same thing, but with better results, since they're no longer susceptible to the differences and also have a certain autonomy. In fact, that would be more like botting than anything else.


Well, you don't need a 20k machine, you could be using 25 cheap separate machines. Built minimalistically, you could get one EVE box down to 300$ easily, which means you're "only" spending about 7500$ on it.
In fact, one slightly less cheap machine could run EVE at a barely palatable framerate while serving 4 clients with minimal graphic detail, so you could probably bring your costs down to 100$ per account, or barely 2500$ total. Which is how much some people actually spend on a single machine to run EVE in absolute max detail on multiple monitors with.
And since you're duplicating inputs, you could do it all with a single monitor (although, the more you use, the better feedback you get).


TBH, I wondered about it myself.
But not in a "we should not allow this" fashion, but in a "we should allow the rest" one.