EVE General Discussion

Clothing items are a way for CCP to influence PLEX prices.
Thsy are a nice and decent way of income.

The only thing missing is CCP adapting to the potential,
to make efficient use of it.

I haven't successfully invested countless hours in this just for a clueless doomsayer
coming here talking crap about something he has no understanding of.

Yes, that's you.


Or, in other words ...

That's a great idea!

You missed when Kate and I were rubbing hulls in E:D group play

I ♥ the Rain system in ED too.

You just sum up wormhole life one sentence.

Do you have more understanding about Incarna and game development than anyone out of CCP now? Please share the knowledge.

Or did I stung too deep with my doomsaying?

I can be more bitter than that, easily. That was nothing.

Ah, so you don't get who the responsible party is for Incarna. Pretty sure WoD and Incarna had slightly different causes. One management, the other the players. Lumping them into the same ...category... is not accurate.

It's impolite to call people names, no matter the likeness to the description. I do not engage in such activity, so when Incarna rabblers are called angry neckbeards with no fashion sense anyway, I very, very strongly detest such personal attacks. For the sake of brevity and to identify them as a group, it's much more correct to refer to them by their actions, or "monument shooters."

Monument shooters basically need to be sat in a corner when it comes to things they don't understand. The growth of a game I like has been stunted enough. I would like more acknowledgement for the avatars who obey our commands, which I enjoy. After all, EVE is not a first-person simulation, and it is the avatar who pilots a ship, not you.

We've played spaceken and barbie complete with a pink malibu corvette all along, and most players don't even know it.

Well ... he had his rant.

Can we move on now?


This thread isn't exactly the official thread to change the game ...
... so why not channel the energy into something productive?


Things won't change from today to tomorrow. While I do not promote WiS in any way or form,
I believe that shouldn't be the goal anyway. We're simply way too far away from that.

A satisfying WiS can not be achieved with the current reality of character costumisation. It's not doable,
simply because absolutely most characters would look alike. There isn't enough emphasis on personality yet.

We should first concentrate on the important stepping stones ...
... before we can reach out for a greater goal.


That's why we're all in this thread anyway, right? Because of character customisation.
Looks. Clothes. Personalities.


And once this point is satisfyingly achieved ...
... we can move on to Expression and Interaction.






Sheesh .... that was one of my better ones.

Wull, I tried making sense with pictures but that was going nowhere. Say Incarna and suddenly people start listening.

Oh yes...

I have the screenshoots of people shooting it, I looked at the chat, I shunned them, they were afraid of microtransactions, but still we have them. For the most, it was microtransactions, and a lengthy thread about the door, full of memes. I remember what they said earlier about further development of Incarna part and spaceship part, they said many thing about it on fanfest, there was blog about it after the rage, but at the end it was the management who decided to drop the ball, it happened because it was clearly too heavy on development for Icelandic crew, would be too lengthy to implement, spaceships would suffer, and they still tried to push WoD out.

But that is history and now to the point:


You talk about developed characters. They are developed. There is environment and there is gameplay. More clothes will not change this drastically. I had the same feeling about immersion when I started playing the game, as I have now. Immersion without CQ is possible. At the end, its not the pretty graphics what's essential.

Don't get me wrong. Clothes are only a spice to the dish served by spaceships and people ambition. After all it's good spice.

And that was the impressions I got from this talk with CCP devs and overall about the game.