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Mission Running alt?

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Legit Amarrian Princess
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-12-18 17:27:26 UTC
With the recent gift of 20 days of dual character training, I was thinking of training up a high-sec character to make some extra money.

What I'm wondering is are there more valuable things to do in HS? Is it even worth it to do missions?

I ran straight from high-sec when I started playing, so I'm kinda in the dark on how to do these things.


If 20 days isn't enough to train one up I can buy a PLEX or two.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#2 - 2014-12-18 17:46:25 UTC
Just make another cyno like everybody else. In 20 days you won't train anything bringing more money in hisec than you can earn in your current area (I assume null).

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Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-12-18 17:55:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Daniel Plain
a decent mission char is about half a year of work, all in all. one year if you have OCD and want all important skills at 5. that said, if you have a combat char with good core skills floating around, 20 days should be enought to train up social skills and polish gunnery/navigation etc.

edit: as for income, 100m/hr is the figure usually floated in reference to hisec lvl4 missions. it's a little high for the average mission runner but dedication and experience can get you past that figure easily.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Legit Amarrian Princess
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-12-18 18:45:49 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
a decent mission char is about half a year of work, all in all. one year if you have OCD and want all important skills at 5. that said, if you have a combat char with good core skills floating around, 20 days should be enought to train up social skills and polish gunnery/navigation etc.

edit: as for income, 100m/hr is the figure usually floated in reference to hisec lvl4 missions. it's a little high for the average mission runner but dedication and experience can get you past that figure easily.

Alright. My main has some good skills like you said, I'll head up to high sec to do some stuff.

Also, my current highest standing is with amarr. What corp is the best to run missions for?
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-12-18 19:06:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Antillie Sa'Kan
Legit Amarrian Princess wrote:
Also, my current highest standing is with amarr. What corp is the best to run missions for?

Best in what way?

Most people run missions for SoE due to the probes and probe launchers always being in demand. You can probably find better ISK/LP elsewhere but it will be a moving target and SoE is consistent and easy.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-12-18 23:13:40 UTC
If you in null or a WH already the best use for a 20 day alt is probably give it some null/WH planets and collect AFK passive ISK from the PI.
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#7 - 2014-12-18 23:27:05 UTC
Make an fw alt. 20 days will get you in to an OK frig to do defensive and some ofensive plexing and a little pvp if you want to do something different.. in you in to pi, a pi alt does OK in null.

... What next ??

Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#8 - 2014-12-19 07:28:46 UTC
I would think you could make a decent raven or domi pilot in that time frame, however I don't know that it is worth it. at ~3months of focused character training you can get some decent results, however it is more of a slow and steady mission runner than a high end blitzer. Not really sure what the income is like. then again it is probably something you could fit a MJD to and mostly afk some income.

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Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-12-19 16:37:23 UTC
Legit Amarrian Princess wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
a decent mission char is about half a year of work, all in all. one year if you have OCD and want all important skills at 5. that said, if you have a combat char with good core skills floating around, 20 days should be enought to train up social skills and polish gunnery/navigation etc.

edit: as for income, 100m/hr is the figure usually floated in reference to hisec lvl4 missions. it's a little high for the average mission runner but dedication and experience can get you past that figure easily.

Alright. My main has some good skills like you said, I'll head up to high sec to do some stuff.

Also, my current highest standing is with amarr. What corp is the best to run missions for?

your main should have at least -2 or better standings with at least one empire faction, or you will have to run the faction standing repair plan. as for where to run, that's a science in itself.

it has been stated above that you cannot go wrong with sisters of eve. this is generally true, but there are a few small drawbacks. if you want to really optimize for maximum profit, the most important aspect is a good LP store. much of your income will come from converting loyalty points to ISK, so you should find items with high market volume and high ISK/LP. (sisters probes and probe launchers are OK, but there are better items out there.) other than that, you should look for a good place to run missions. here is what to look for:
- obviously, at least one lvl4 security agent, two are a bonus.
- preferably a 0.5 system, as the payouts scale with sec status. 0.6 can be acceptable if there are other advantages.
- preferably no lowsec nearby, so you will not have to decline lowsec missions.
- a storyline agent for the same faction nearby, preferably in the same station.
- a quiet corner of space, preferably under 10 people in local. the more shiny your ship the more important this point gets.
- a small system and small neighboring systems. long warps hurt your income more than you might think.
- local rats that fit your mission ship's damage type. bonus points if they have no annoying ewar (unless you can fly a marauder).

it's hard to formulate a precise metric, but the points above should help you decide on where to settle.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Justin Zaine
#10 - 2014-12-21 04:15:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Justin Zaine
Quote:
I would think you could make a decent raven or domi pilot in that time frame


Ummmmm no.

20 days of trg will get you BS IV (6 days) and maybe 10 other skills to IV but thats about it. 20 days is barely enough to fly frigs effectively, let alone Battleships.

He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.

He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2014-12-21 22:38:35 UTC
Justin Zaine wrote:
Quote:
I would think you could make a decent raven or domi pilot in that time frame


Ummmmm no.

20 days of trg will get you BS IV (6 days) and maybe 10 other skills to IV but thats about it. 20 days is barely enough to fly frigs effectively, let alone Battleships.



This seems to be the point in just 20 days :D

Aside from PI/mining/hauling alts which are useful at 20 days- it is not quite enough. Hence many people will eventually PLEX another 30 days.

The current 10% PLEX sale is not coincidental