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CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#181 - 2014-12-19 11:38:19 UTC
thank you all so much for taking the time to post all those ideas in my thread. I've been reading through it all with CCP Sharq and we'll see what we can do for you <3

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Bill Lane
Strategic Insanity
FUBAR.
#182 - 2014-12-19 11:44:21 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
thank you all so much for taking the time to post all those ideas in my thread. I've been reading through it all with CCP Sharq and we'll see what we can do for you <3


Much appreciated, and badly needed. Hope to see some good stuff with this!

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Rain6636
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#183 - 2014-12-19 12:20:11 UTC
oh, Sharq. I thought you said Shaq.

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CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#184 - 2014-12-19 12:42:55 UTC
Rain6636 wrote:
oh, Sharq. I thought you said Shaq.


I'm sure you'll hear about it if Shaq joins us Big smileLolBig smileLolBig smile

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GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#185 - 2014-12-19 13:06:22 UTC
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#186 - 2014-12-19 13:08:05 UTC
The excellent thing about this thread is the question is being asked in a casual unofficial capacity before planning.

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CCP Sharq
C C P
C C P Alliance
#187 - 2014-12-19 13:54:57 UTC
We're busy copying, pasting, sorting, discussing your suggestions.

Thanks guys!

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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#188 - 2014-12-19 14:43:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Altrue
I'm a bit late, sorry Big smile


  • Logs! Who took the 50 free ships we had for newbies?
  • Grantable Titles! We have grantable roles, but its useless, because we don't tick specific roles for each member, we give them a title, and if I need to ajust the roles of my members, I change the title roles, and it automatically spreads to everyone. Except that I can't deleguate the attribution of titles... Because there are no grantable titles.
  • Allow x items to be taken: Instead of just "can" or "cannot" take, being able to take "only x stacks" of items would be better. Or something like that.
  • Mass Fitting! I beg you, for the love of all that is sacred, mass fitting please! Probably not included in your definition of corp stuff though, even though it would actually mainly be used by corps.


And then less important things :

  • Corp removal: The kick queue is great, but if it were to also automatically kick when the player docks, instead of waiting for downtime, that'd be better. Also the 24h stasis period, its very obscure! One can wait the period, or leave current corp and skip the stasis period. I didn't even know you could skip the stasis period!
  • More granular permissions: Steve said it all. Maybe with a "lite" mode for newbies CEO. For instance, my bookmark manager is also my calendar manager because its on the same role, wtf?? xD
  • Mass medal attribution: Title says it all. Also, being able to give medals to people outside of corp would be cool. You could even, through it, allow for emergent, player-made, certification organisms, and that kind of stuff. That'd be funny :D
  • Mass corp insurance: Being able to select 100 ships, right clic, insure.


Thanks for the request for feedback, have a happy holiday and good luck sorting all that stuff out!

Edit: Also, instant update of corp bookmarks! And raising the number of corp bookmarks would be cool aswell.

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Spookzor 4-Eyes
Grey Templars
#189 - 2014-12-19 16:10:08 UTC
Roles.
Laura Agathon
Nothing on Dscan
#190 - 2014-12-19 16:20:51 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
As mentioned in may other places:

Corp permissions aren't fine grained enough, and management through titles isn't flexible enough.

Ideally you would have the ability to grant permissions to groups, which can have other groups as members (nested) with the permissions flowing down to users. (With both allow and deny privileges. Deny overrides any number of allows)

Permissions should be possible down to the structure level, with inheritance from a number of levels.

So you can grant privileges to a group, for an individual POS. Or for an individual structure at a POS. Or for every POS in a particular Constellation. or so on.

Ideally you'd have a simple privilege model (similar to the current one) and a fine grained one (you can add fuel, but not unanchor) to allow people to manage it appropriately.

With this, you'd need a Resultant Set of Privileges tool, so get a privilege list for a user, on a particular thing.

(yes, much of this is lifted from the Windows file system/POSIX privilege model)

Oh, and APIs to manage it Smile


While it's not an interface thing:

Two new types of group are needed.

Cross Corp social groups, which bundle a mailing list, bulletins, possibly a wallet, group management (for privileges on the group resources), fleet invites restricted to the group and a chat channel. With proper searching so people can find them. (handy for RvB Ganked, Spectre Fleet and so on)

Corp 'Lite': For when people want a name to rally behind, but don't need/want anything else which comes from having a player corp. (so no corp offices, POS, POCOs) Maybe give them a wallet. Handy for a group of newbies coming in, who want to play together, but not be smashed into the group by bored vets.


Exactly this.
Batolemaeus
Mahlstrom
Northern Associates.
#191 - 2014-12-19 16:27:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Batolemaeus
I'm just going to leave this here

Considering that my line of work (Trader/Logistician) intersects heavily with corp roles and how assets are handled on a corp level, I'd greatly appreciate some changes to make creating packets for delivery easier.

e.g. by abandoning containers as they are now and condensing them down to a generic, flexible container type, or by allowing a mechanic to instantly create an inflexible container from an arbitrary selection of items.
Amernia Osbourne
Team Domino
#192 - 2014-12-19 16:29:34 UTC
Padlock individual ships in SMA, when storing ships.
Vadeim Rizen
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#193 - 2014-12-19 16:34:06 UTC
A drag and drop feature would be awesome. Assign certain permissions to a group, and to be able to drag and drop a member into a certain group would be fantastic
Gremk
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#194 - 2014-12-19 16:39:14 UTC
I would really like to see more work into the market system related to corps other than just corp contracts.

For example, you could put items on the market, but only leave the access to corp members... or you can setup contracts for certain corps in alliance etc etc.
JengoFett Miromme
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#195 - 2014-12-19 16:39:58 UTC
You could structure roles and permissions similar to an MS Active Directory - You Create or have built in Roles that are anchored to a several sets of folders - Pilots -Accounting-CEO - Directors etc etc- then allow directors to drag and drop players into those folders thereby giving them permissions to access areas of the Corporation. Same thing would work with hangers. You can drop only pilots into those folders that need to have access to specific hangers. Jack and Jill have access to the hanger folder so only they can hand out ships or Bony and Clyde have access to the accounting folder so they are the only persons to distribute ISK etc etc..
Dirk Morbho
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#196 - 2014-12-19 16:40:39 UTC
2 things:

1) More corp logo choices! New designs, color schemes,etc. [Not just more pink Big smile ]


2) roles. omg. needs to be much more granular. I'd like to be able to hand out pos gunning roles and know they don't have the power of offline the tower. etc. The current categories are too few and too broad.
Siobhan MacLeary
Doomheim
#197 - 2014-12-19 16:41:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Siobhan MacLeary
1. POSes. I'm sure other folks have better and more numerous suggestions than I.
2. Following onto POSes, Roles/Titles! See Steve's post here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5310984#post5310984
3. For the love of Bob, reopen Alliance logo submissions. OI submitted a logo, got shot down, got a new one designed, and then logo submissions closed.

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Jafit McJafitson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#198 - 2014-12-19 16:46:38 UTC
Faster propagation of corp bookmarks would be nice. I don't get why I'm instantly notified about a contract being assigned to me, but corp bookmarks don't show up for everyone promptly when they're made.

Allowing recruiters to directly invite players was a good improvement and made things easier

Adjustable limits on volume or value for items taken from corp hangars would be good, as well as allowances for withdrawals from corp wallets.

Maybe examine the use of shares, and consider removing them as they seem to have no real use other than being a massive liability for people who don't know that they should secure them instead of leaving them in the corp wallet for anyone to take.

Aside from that my only experience with corp mechanics is making a tax-evasion corp for a highsec alt... Most of my time was spent making the corp logo... so it'd be nice if the corp logo tool had more options I guess.
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#199 - 2014-12-19 16:47:51 UTC
Second, third, fourth and nth on the roles and permissions system.

More accurate roles, with more descriptive titles would be nice. Spice it up with "Can do X" even in the form of a rudimentary list and it's going to be nice.

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Innominate
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#200 - 2014-12-19 16:52:19 UTC
Titles are the big one. The number of available titles to work with is too small for a large corporation. The problem of granting titles also exists, while non-director corp members can be given the ability to grant roles, they cannot be given the ability to grant titles. If anything, this is backwards. Titles provide a convenient package of roles that can be assigned to a person, their existence and purpose is immediately apparent. In contrast, roles require digging to see and there's no easy way to tell why a member has roles without external tracking.

Please give more space for additional titles, and add per-title roles to allow non-directors to a title(s).

A couple more minor notes:

  • The "edit member" window never comes up on the first try and is laggy as hell afterwards. I don't know if this is just me but it's persisted across computers and with reset settings.

  • Corp Roles need documentation, there needs to be a complete reference for what each corp role allows.


Lastly, the "find member in role" screen. It is a bit arcane but for managing a large corporation this screen is the single most useful tool in our kit. It is amazing in its power and usefulness even if only a small number of people ever need to interact with it. Please do not remove it or any functionality from it.