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Nahrud Zirud
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-12-15 23:32:42 UTC
just a question. would it work to drop a large bubble from you hulk in the belt you are mining in? would it stop nuets/reds and or npcs?
if so what is a recommended range from belt to make it effective.. lets say you not aligned.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2011-12-15 23:55:46 UTC
Put it on the gate where you think reds will show up, then use the time to safe up.
Also, don't mine in nullsec.
Jiska Ensa
Estrale Frontiers
#3 - 2011-12-16 00:08:25 UTC
Yes it would work. It would also stop you from warping out and thus any neuts or reds that land would assuradly kill you.

It's a bad, bad idea.
Nahrud Zirud
Doomheim
#4 - 2011-12-16 00:27:22 UTC
well lets say if it was aligned to the gate 100 km off the belt and you ss or station was in the other direction... bad idea now? prob not.
Imigo Montoya
BreadFleet
Triglavian Outlaws and Sobornost Troika
#5 - 2011-12-16 01:53:40 UTC
Yes, it's an excellent idea - it will drag people out of warp at the edge of the bubble while you are safely in the middle of it. If you like, I can help you set this up, just let me know where.
Grozdan Boyadijev
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-12-16 06:03:48 UTC
Nahrud Zirud wrote:
well lets say if it was aligned to the gate 100 km off the belt and you ss or station was in the other direction... bad idea now? prob not.


Sounds like an excuse to see what sort of dps I can get on the new BCs.
Iosue
League of Gentlemen
The Initiative.
#7 - 2011-12-16 15:15:20 UTC
Nahrud Zirud wrote:
just a question. would it work to drop a large bubble from you hulk in the belt you are mining in? would it stop nuets/reds and or npcs?
if so what is a recommended range from belt to make it effective.. lets say you not aligned.


the problem with this is that if the bubble works, they will already be in the belt with you. they are prolly not worried about warping off once they find you, rather locking and scraming/disrupting you. you want the bubble somewhere else, preferably at a gate, to give you a little extra time to warp off before they show up on your overview.
Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
#8 - 2011-12-16 16:26:48 UTC
Nullsec mining is not safe, if empire mining isn't safe then nullsec mining is no better unless..

You're in a well organised corp / alliance with good intel channels, and a scout at least in the next systems(s)

You make sure you're aligned to a pos, I know it's not an insta warp in a hulk, but at least you don't have to turn round. Note, this isn't as easy as you think it is, rats can bash you, haulers can bash you and knock you out of allignment. Warping to the station is a bad idea, since if I were an ebil piwate or whatever, the first thing I'd do if I jumped into a station system is warp to the station and hopefully alpha a straggling miner running for safety, there's not much chance if you're on the ball of them catching you in a belt, but you'd have to be constantly scanning local, and if it's a busy system with corp / alliance then that's very difficult.

And finally, hope you haven't had a loggoffski before you start mining to spoil the party.

Dropping a bubble on the gate is as best you can do, unless you can drop a bubble on the other side of the gates as well, and have scouts in those systems just to give a little extra warning time.
Percival Gates
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-12-16 19:12:51 UTC
You'd be better off finding a system with a single gate and bubbling the gate to oblivion. When baddies enter local, warp to safespot and (preferably) cloak. However, you'd be even better off still to not mine in 0.0. Without upgrades, your system will likely produce nothing of value. Leave mining to the botters and do something more entertaining that yields a higher isk / effort ratio, such as ganking botters, or even L4 mission running. Friends don't let friends mine.
P3po
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-12-16 21:59:36 UTC
If you play it smart, you can anchor drab bubbles in belts from the direction of gate, so everyone who warp to belt from gate will land lets say 150 km from you, gives you the extra seconds to warp off from the belt before they reach you.
Kush Monster
Big Tobacco
#11 - 2011-12-16 22:16:47 UTC
P3po wrote:
If you play it smart, you can anchor drab bubbles in belts from the direction of gate, so everyone who warp to belt from gate will land lets say 150 km from you, gives you the extra seconds to warp off from the belt before they reach you.


bingo.



Also for all the haters, nullsec can be perfectly safe to mine/rat/whatever with provided you are familiar with your region. go to a system in some backwoods are of your region where nobody has any business being and mine there. Chances are you'll be all alone just keep checking local. If somebody pops in whos not blue, GTFO.

How to make mining enjoyable: An Autocannon, Faction Ammo, Your Mouth
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#12 - 2011-12-17 11:13:08 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Emma Royd wrote:

You make sure you're aligned to a pos, I know it's not an insta warp in a hulk, but at least you don't have to turn round. Note, this isn't as easy as you think it is, rats can bash you, haulers can bash you and knock you out of allignment. Warping to the station is a bad idea, since if I were an ebil piwate or whatever, the first thing I'd do if I jumped into a station system is warp to the station and hopefully alpha a straggling miner running for safety, there's not much chance if you're on the ball of them catching you in a belt, but you'd have to be constantly scanning local, and if it's a busy system with corp / alliance then that's very difficult.



Confirmed, Passive Align is truth and keeping your space pixel sphere pointed somewhere helps you warp more than Jack and Shit. Take 2 minutes out of your busy day and test it before you go off with your mouth diarrhea.


P3po wrote:
If you play it smart, you can anchor drab bubbles in belts from the direction of gate, so everyone who warp to belt from gate will land lets say 150 km from you, gives you the extra seconds to warp off from the belt before they reach you.



Or just toss bubbles up on the gate until you have some radius around the gate totally bubbled. That plus the time it takes to figure out which hidden belt you're in should keep you alive.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Celgar Thurn
Department 10
#13 - 2011-12-17 17:07:57 UTC
Walls have ears so be careful what you say about your business activities in New Eden. Remember as on planet Earth you are only a few feet away from a rat in New Eden you might only be a few kilometres away from a member of Goonswarm. Lol
P3po
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2011-12-17 17:29:07 UTC
Yea, bubbling gate to oblivion works too.

But you ahve problem when you dont have dead end system, in that case, its not really handy to have the gate bubbled, since there can be friendly people passing by which will be pissed.