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solo salvaging info please

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Mr Chili Palmer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-12-17 14:22:52 UTC
At the moment i am in a cormorant destroyer having a go at solo salvaging.
i have 2 x salvager 1 units on it and 1 missile launcher, i feel i have not got the ideal setup could anyone please give me a decent ship/equipment setup to use. take into account please am limited fund wise.

my other question is what is the best way to approach salvaging? i am doing lvl 1 missions killing the npc's and looting/salvaging that way. would it be easier to just roam round from system to system looking for wrecks?

thanks

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Hijeri
Interstellar Manufacturing of Gravity Aided Yields
#2 - 2011-12-17 14:55:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Hijeri
Expanded Cargohold I

1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Cap Recharger I
Cap Recharger I
Cap Recharger I

Salvager I
Salvager I
Salvager I
Salvager I
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

I don't recommend actually doing any fighting yourself. I don't know where you are salvaging, but use your d-scan to scan for wrecks in belts, check to see if there are enemy NPC's there, and either warp or salvage really quickly. Or team up with a ratter so you can salvage the wrecks he creates.
Flakey Foont
#3 - 2011-12-17 15:46:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Flakey Foont
Early on use two ships. One to fight and the destroyer build mentioned to salvage.


Actually it might be better to get to level 3 missions as the salvage doesn't really begin to make isk until then.
Satav
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-12-17 17:22:32 UTC
I'm assuming you're using a destroyer as you can't fly a primae or marauder yet.

The fit linked above is good.

I personally preferred the thrasher as a destroyer salvager..... it's more mobile.

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Mr Chili Palmer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-12-17 17:57:11 UTC
Thanks for the tips

@flakey when you say use 2 ships 1 to fight etc and 1 to salvage lets say i kill 5 npc's from a mission do i not risk the chance of loosing these bits of salvage to another salvager, while running back to get MY salvaging ship?

@Hijeri at the momnet i am just salvaging in the vicinity of my corp ie yona area, i just want to geta few things corrected then i intend to fly off into the wilderness and see what crops up, i need to find myself a nice system with lots of activity etc but not too low sec that i become cannon fodder.

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#6 - 2011-12-17 20:02:03 UTC
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
Thanks for the tips

@flakey when you say use 2 ships 1 to fight etc and 1 to salvage lets say i kill 5 npc's from a mission do i not risk the chance of loosing these bits of salvage to another salvager, while running back to get MY salvaging ship?

@Hijeri at the momnet i am just salvaging in the vicinity of my corp ie yona area, i just want to geta few things corrected then i intend to fly off into the wilderness and see what crops up, i need to find myself a nice system with lots of activity etc but not too low sec that i become cannon fodder.



Yes you run the chance. It's not high though. I've had it happen to me once. (and another time I had someone turn up to provoke a fight by loot stealing. oops on my part there. Only didn't lose my ship as the guy was feeling nice)

if you stay above 0.4, you're pretty much safe. Well, as safe as anyone is in Eve. Concord will avenge you. Cool

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#7 - 2011-12-17 22:08:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
I would just use a fully combat ship for missions and bookmark wrecks, then come back to those wrecks when the mission is done with a ship fit for salvaging.

This also has the advantage of being able to use a microwarp drive, as the deadspace restrictions go away after turning in the mission and the site despawns, but the wrecks remain (for about 2 hours).

Anybody that ninja salvages either needs it a lot more than I do, or was really trying to provoke a fight that I wasn't interested in. I usually abandon all wrecks, and let ninjas take whatever they want. The ones that only want a fight will usually leave.
Capital T
Doomheim
#8 - 2011-12-19 04:35:49 UTC
[Noctis, 1]

4x Small Tractor Beam I
4x Salvager I

Small Capacitor Booster II (Cap Booster 150)
10MN MicroWarpdrive II

3x Expanded Cargohold II

3x Medium Cargohold Optimization I



use this for salvaging... and get your ship skill to lv 4... :) this will serve you well. :)
Toshiro GreyHawk
#9 - 2011-12-19 07:49:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Toshiro GreyHawk
1) It is extremely difficult to find wrecks using an on board scanner and they do not show up on scan probes - what ninja's do - is scan YOU. Therefore - they usually won't find your wrecks unless you are with them. Also - Ninja's are mostly interested in Level IV Wrecks - so if you're in a quiet system without an Level IV Agent's Missions being run there - you'll probably not find any Ninja's. Thus - leaving the wrecks unattended works fine. Just remember to bookmark their location before you leave so you can find them. You have two hours to salvage them before they go away.


2) Starting out 4 salvagers and 4 tractors is good. You don't need the cap rechargers if you watch your cap but they won't hurt as long as you're not skimping on tractors or slavagers to fit them. As your salvaging skills improve you can go to 5 tractors and 3 salvagers.

3) Navigation skills improve you cap by either letting you get their faster or use less cap to do it.

4) The best salvager destroyer is the Catalyst as it has a drone for self defense. If your mission was in a .8 or lower system - the belt rats may come by for a visit and that drone comes in handy.

5) If you are running your missions with a destroyer and only have one - you can save your fits in the fitting tool - then keep all the stuff for each fit in your items hangar and switch back and forth.

6) You can usually run several missions in your mission boat, bookmark a wreck in each wreck field, then switch to your salvager and come back and get them all. Just note the time of your oldest wreck, salvage it first, and allow sufficient time to get all the others done before they expire. If you have lots of missions with low numbers of wrecks you don't need to worry about running out of time but if you have several that have large numbers of wrecks you do.

7) Gallente and Cadari space wrecks are not as good on average as those in Amarr and especially Minmatar space.

8) Salvage is hit and miss. You can get a bunch of crappy salvage and then a bunch of really good salvage. it's chance based but it averages out.

9) Level I and II mission wrecks yield poor salvage but then at that level each ISK counts for more. You just have to be the judge of whether or not what you're getting in salvage is worth the time you spend on it. Many people will advise you to just skip the salvage at that level. If you're looting the wrecks though - you may as well salvage them - as it doesn't take much longer.

10) There are several salvaging strategies you can use - which you implement as you are flying the mission.
a) The Ball of Wrecks - here you orbit some point and let the rats come to you, killing them all within a 20km sphere so that your tractors can just pull them all in when you come to salvage them without moving your ship.
b) The Bigger Ball of Wrecks - this is created by herding your rats and is a form of Kiting. As they close on you, you turn in a large circle around them. This tends to produce a bigger ball of wrecks but is less dangerous than letting yourself get swarmed trying tactic (a) above.
c) The Wreck Stream - here you kite the rats - getting them to follow you - but periodically sweeping back and forth over the same area between groups of rats, this creates a stream of wrecks. You bookmark one at one end, warp to that point when you come back, then move down the stream tractoring them to you and salvaging them as you go.

11) When you start doing Level III missions you might think about getting a dedicated salvaging ship. They're very expensive compared to a destroyer but do a better job of salvaging.

12) Pretty much all the things you can do - Training Salvaging, Getting T2 Salvagers and fitting Salvaging rigs, lets you salvage things faster. Training your Salvaging skill is necessary to salvage some of the better wrecks - but since it also speeds up your salvaging - is well worth training to at least 4 - and if you want that T2 Salvager to Level V.

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Etherials
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-12-19 09:33:57 UTC
As stated above salvaging is not really worthwile till LVL3 missions, This of course is dependant on your ship skills and ability to run lvl3's. you may want to wait till the higher end lvl2's to salvage while waiting for the skills to run lvl3's.

As always though play eve your way and don't let anyone tell you how to play the game, Play it your way.
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#11 - 2011-12-19 11:21:13 UTC
T2 Tractors are neat. Especially in a Noctis. About double the price, but an extra 100m/s and 4 km range helps a great deal. Especially when the Noctis bonuses then kick in. Sure, Science 5 isn't /that/ needed, but when you have some research agents cooking as well, it's a must.

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2011-12-19 11:57:14 UTC
It's a good idea to loot and salvage the low level missions when first starting out. Doing that should double the amount of isk made on those missions.

When you get into level 3 and level 4 missions, it's better to just salvage the medium and large wrecks while skipping the small wrecks. Don't forget to grab loot from all wrecks. You'll get the majority of salvage available without spending a lot of time. That also allows you to get another mission much faster.
Mr Chili Palmer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2011-12-19 15:11:30 UTC
thanks for the info and tip.
you all have a good christmas.

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Orlacc
#14 - 2011-12-19 16:06:15 UTC
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
Thanks for the tips

@flakey when you say use 2 ships 1 to fight etc and 1 to salvage lets say i kill 5 npc's from a mission do i not risk the chance of loosing these bits of salvage to another salvager, while running back to get MY salvaging ship?

@Hijeri at the momnet i am just salvaging in the vicinity of my corp ie yona area, i just want to geta few things corrected then i intend to fly off into the wilderness and see what crops up, i need to find myself a nice system with lots of activity etc but not too low sec that i become cannon fodder.



You always run the risk of losing salvage but in my experience it is rare. Also, if you are not there they can't scan you down anyway...

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Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#15 - 2011-12-19 16:30:25 UTC
If you have a dedicated salvager there's no reason not to salvage level 2's, especially if you're a broke newbie.

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Imustbecomfused
Illicit Expo
#16 - 2011-12-19 16:51:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Imustbecomfused
Xuixien wrote:
If you have a dedicated salvager there's no reason not to salvage level 2's, especially if you're a broke newbie.



I tend to agree. I salvaged from lv 2-4 and it adds to your overall income. Why not salvage? If you are an exp pilot, with a new account, and have no real NEED to do so, then by all means, it is not necessary to salvage low lv missions. But, if you are a first timer pilot in Eve, by all means, make that isk! When you get to lv 4's you will see the isk goes up considerably for salvage. Trit bars are my favorite, I ran a lv 4 yesturday and got 32 of them from one mission. Plus the Armor Plates, circut thingies,,, and all the other loot... Check your loot by clicking the item and see market details.

A quick idea I will share, If I see a loot item for market value over 100,000 isk, then I place it in a cargo can for sale. If it is under, then I reprocess the item... This saves me time, where time is money in Eve. Using a destroyer for salvaging is the best thing for a noob while they work the skills up for a noctis.

Most meta 3/4 items sell for good isk, or good enough for me for lv 3 and lv 4 missions.

Know this, when you get a system down, it saves you money. When I used a destroyer for salvaging, I still used 4 tractor beams with 4 salvagers, 2 cargo expanders, and a mwd for better speed and time... May need a cap booster or cap re-charger or two as well to help keep your cap charged. :)
Imustbecomfused
Illicit Expo
#17 - 2011-12-19 16:52:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Imustbecomfused
double post...