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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#21 - 2014-12-12 14:07:10 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
Who is Simca Devalon? Queries did not return any information on this capsuleer.

-Eran


Simca Develon.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Jade Blackwind
#22 - 2014-12-12 18:02:52 UTC
Karynn Denton wrote:
The people of the caravans have many stories to tell on this matter, Ms Riordan.

However, your recent post regarding Spirits makes it quite clear that you would want to seek a scientific explaination. I fear you may be disappointed with what we have to offer.

I'd also like to echo Ms Blackwind's words, here; there are some things that we are not meant to pry into, to do so would be to trespass on the world beyond this one. The secrets and knowledge held by those who dwell there are to be passed through our Elders, Khargai and Shamen when they see it fit to do so.

Be cautious and respectful.
Though I'm a bit ashamed, I'll admit that I tend to think that there ultimately is a scientific explanation. Not that it'd help the victim, anyway.

Think of a caveman that encounters an adventurer from our time, clad in an infantry-class suit, killing the mightiest beasts with lighting and thunder. What would he think? That this is a god. If the said adventurer kills the members of his tribe - that this is an evil god.

Now think of the same caveman that encounters a sentient nano hive.

Yes, it's probably that bad.

If I ever meet a hostile life form of pure energy that can infest and control human hosts, I can say "Malevolent Alien Infomorph Entity", but I can also say - and it would be much, much easier to understand, relate and keep away from - "Evil Spirit".

Can a caveman fight against a sentient nanohive?

...There can be a scientific explanation. But there still are things that are best not to be found, and against them a scientific explanation alone won't help at all.

That's why I said "good luck".
Eojek
Starlight Moly
#23 - 2014-12-19 04:07:30 UTC
This is a concise detail of what you know but please provide a works-cited document?
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2014-12-19 07:49:45 UTC
Zetsubou Gakusei wrote:

A. There might exist a "god" entity in this dimension that is able to manipulate it at will (although people managed to escape so this god can't be really that omnipotent)

There is The God, and if people managed to escape, it only because it was He allowed them to.

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Zetsubou Gakusei
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2014-12-19 08:45:18 UTC
Luna Hanaya wrote:
Zetsubou Gakusei wrote:

A. There might exist a "god" entity in this dimension that is able to manipulate it at will (although people managed to escape so this god can't be really that omnipotent)

There is The God, and if people managed to escape, it only because it was He allowed them to.

You just couldn't help yourself couldn't you
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2014-12-19 10:45:27 UTC
Zetsubou Gakusei wrote:
Luna Hanaya wrote:
Zetsubou Gakusei wrote:

A. There might exist a "god" entity in this dimension that is able to manipulate it at will (although people managed to escape so this god can't be really that omnipotent)

There is The God, and if people managed to escape, it only because it was He allowed them to.

You just couldn't help yourself couldn't you

Existence of the God is not a probability, it is a reality.
I could send you a copy of scriptures, you could read it by yourself.

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Haria Haritimado
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#27 - 2014-12-19 18:16:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Haria Haritimado
Saede Riordan wrote:
If anyone would like to contribute to the project, send me an evemail. I'm trying to do a few things right now:

*Create a comprehensive list of all legitimate anomalies, sorting out the actual gate incidents from other ship losses. I have no idea if my list is complete, or if there are events on it that can be explained via other means then the stargate anomalies. So if you have an incident to report, or have heard of one of these incidents, please send me a mail. Despite whatever Valete might say, my primary interest is in getting to the truth of these events, whatever that truth may be.

*Come up with a method of triggering the anomaly in a controlled manner. Without a method of replicating these incidents, we can't expect to learn about their cause.

*Collect interviews and testimony of any and all first and possibly secondhand accounts of the anomaly.

If you can assist in any of these processes, please don't hesitate to give me a poke, or even if you've not any of the skills I'm looking for but wish to help, I likely will need all the assistance I can get in this endeavour.


To Saede Riordan
CEO Alexlyva Paradox

Dear Ms. Riordan,

Your above mentioned initiative and public call for investigative help has awakened the attention of the House of Records and the Science & Trade Institute. I am asked to inform you that the disclosure of any unauthorized information regarding Caldari military or industrial space vessel accidents is not appreciated. This specifically includes any information on incidents which involved Kaalakiota assets, such as gate logfiles, personal files, or fright records.

Anyway, the House of Records would like to offer you assistance in return for your good will. The directorate for insurance and finance is concerned with the Dantumi incident in YC 96. I'm authorized to share information with you about this specific case. If you are inclined to comply.

Respectfully,

Haria Haritimado
Science & Trade Institute

Corporate ID
Ines Tegator
Serious Business Inc. Ltd. LLC. etc.
#28 - 2014-12-21 21:21:24 UTC
What we know about non-euclidean space (aka hyperspace, sub space, warp space, the 5th dimension, whatever people have named it over the years) is limited. Our technology absolutely requires interaction with it, but since it's beyond our realm of direct perception, those interactions are the only information we have.

Non-euclidean space is a dimension that projects to varying degrees into space-time. By using this non-euclidean topography as it interacts with our own space-time, we can "bend" space time for faster then light travel (no bending actually occurs - our ships are displaced in a limited manner into a phase of space that is not governed by the same laws of physics - but whatever. "Bending" or "Warping" is common terminology among the lay population, so I'll reluctantly use it here).

The upshot of all this is that noone has any clue whatsoever about what non-euclidean space is actually like. We know that it does not follow the laws of our universe, and we know how to utilize limited projections of it to achieve FTL flight. That is all. Suppose that a person were somehow transported fully into this 5th phase of space, instead of riding it's topographical ridges. What would they experience? Could the brain even comprehend a universe so fully outside of time? Does anything live there? Does the word alive even have any meaning in a place like that?

We simply don't know.

I wish Saede Riordan luck in her search, and will keep an eye on this discussion in case my expertise may be of use. Truly though, I very much doubt that physics can provide the answer.

Overhaul Dscan!
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