Ships & Modules

Before I start, I have not searched the forums about this topic. I want to rant a bit.

Griefers and mining barges. Have the powers that be ever been given grief about how easy it is to kill mining barges?

I know that the game is suppose to have a level of risk, yadda, yadda, yadda. But can we not get a buff of the barges so that we can at least fight back a little bit?

I lost a covetor to a Thrasher in 10 seconds. I did not even get a chance to launch my drones!

So, if it has not already been beaten to death, can we all scream at CCP to buff the barges.

Thank you for your support.

Med Shield tank and put a DCU on your damn miner then with shield rigs. You might just survive a single dessie gank and live long enough to deploy your ECM drones then run away.

As for being "mining slower", suck it up.

As much as a standart T1 cruiser like Arbitrator or Vexor.

They are medium hulls which need medium rigs and aren't able to fit medium rep/booster or plates/shields ??? Bad joke !!

Common fits for Arbitrator or Vexor include largh shield extender AND all the stuff they need to fight. Even a Hulk ... TECH 2 MULTI MILLION DOLLER SHIP ... can't fit a MEDIUM extender without problems (fitting mods)!
3*Stripe miner + 1 MEDIUM T2 shield extender == NOT POSIBLE without fitting mods.

I realy want to see your tears when you can't fit even a MEDIUM extender on your shiny pew pew TECH TWO cruiser !

Plain and simple FAIL BALANCE!

Why are you flying a 230M ship that can be destroyed by a single pilot in a cheap ship? Especially when you know that people like to explode hulks for giggles?

I don't think the hulk needs a buff. I think CCP needs to release a hulk variant with the exact same stats, two high slots and a prohibition on cargo expanders and mining upgrades. That should make tanking it a much easier decision.

The gears and cogs of capitalism would cause manufacturers to build better mouse traps to meet demand. Like making the deimos have a smaller sig radius and move faster. O wait....

It's a mining barge not a combat vessel. If you insist on flying it while knowing what's inevitably going to happen you are simply an idiot.

If I took to autopiloting freighters through gatecamps I wouldn't come whine for a buff after the obvious lossmail.

Well, it's pretty obvius that when you can't do better than blow up unarmed ships, then you can't do better than that.

Said it before and will say it again...mining barges should detonate like grain silos when fired upon with an explosion large enough to destroy/cripple the attacking ship. A mining barge half full of valuable ore should be an explosion waiting to happen since the ore has been 'energized' by the mining laser as it was harvested. There should be a 1% chance of the barge exploding without being fired upon in the first place!

EDIT: I would like to see a 'ore stabilizer' for a power slot, that when turned on eliminates the chance of the ore spontaneously detonating, and obviously when the stabilizer is destroyed or turned off all the ore becomes instantly unstable and detonates itself if the barge receives weapons fire. Seriously, mining is a dangerous business. You go shoot a rocket at a coal rail car, or a highway gas tanker, and BOOM! Ore that has been gathered a molecule at a time by an energetic mining process should be highly unstable. The physics of single-molecule combustion in grain silos is a well established science. It continues to happen to this day even though modern grain silos are designed with 'grain stabilizers' to prevent the buildup of single particle dust. Is this concept really so hard to understand?

Naw. Give Exhumers a cruiser equivalent tank but remove their strip mining bonuses. Leave the specialist bonuses. Then boost the strip mining yield bonus on all of the barges. You want the best m3/hour then barge is your choice. You want survival then exhumer is your choice.

When CONCORDER they should be jailed for 7, 14, 21, ... days -> unable to undock or trade!
In addition all the drobbed loot can ONLY be taken by the victim.