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Social Experiment

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Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#21 - 2014-12-18 12:45:59 UTC
Hey, congrats.

EVE is a 'social experiment'.

Mad Icelanders wanted to see what would happen if you made a game that had minimal interference with the players, just to see what the players would do to, and with, each other.

And you found out, didn't you?

tldr yep, there is a sucker born every minute

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#22 - 2014-12-18 13:11:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Omar Alharazaad
I'm going to have to go with the game bit also. If it is causing you genuine distress then you probably need to put some distance between it and you until that changes. I'm serious here, we all play for fun (well, most of us at least) and if a setback in the game is enough to make it either not be fun for you or generate actual real life pain and emotional suffering then it's probably something you should not get too involved with.

As far as the people here go, I wouldn't be too fast with the labels. I've found that many of them are downright helpful if approached in a courteous and civil manner with questions about many matters within the game. There are things they are intolerant about, and those things vary from person to person, but most have their own reasons for that.

To put things further into perspective: You just walked into a forum filled with fun loving thugs, hooligans, ne'er do wells and mercenaries who's favorite past times include theft, property destruction, face melting and the collecting of frozen corpses... and stepped up on a soapbox and declared that you had just been victimized by one of their ilk due to not paying close attention to the fine print on a market deal. Had you taken this to NPQA you would have gotten a more civil response, but here what happened is pretty typical, even mild in comparison to some others.

I hope this sheds a little light on things. It's not a matter of sociopathy or lack thereof, it's a matter of the roles taken up by the players in the game. Most of us are pretty decent folks outside the game, but inside it (including here) some of us are complete bastards and we like it that way.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#23 - 2014-12-18 17:20:36 UTC
Was about to send OP a billion but I see he started calling everyone sociopaths. No isk sent!
Eldwinn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-12-18 17:24:11 UTC
Updated tl;dr. Op tears and begs for isk. Then halfway through realizes what a horrible mistake he has made. Calls everyone a sociopath and changes the OP to "Social Experiment" to cover his ass.
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#25 - 2014-12-18 17:27:57 UTC
I feel I should add that if OP wants to play a game without sociopathic types he should steer well clear of call of duty type games. I mean, everyone that plays that game is literally a brutal murderer!

I recommend Hello Kitty Online.
Paranoid Loyd
#26 - 2014-12-18 17:49:04 UTC
Original OP:

Bannorfista wrote:
After a long day at work i got some and did some unssuccesful station trading and I noticed a guy doing greed games in Jita. Since my main is a self proclaimed solo pvper(I won't link him but he is around 50% eff, so ye I suck) I jumped on a few contracts and bought a zealot for 1.1 bil.


Now I know this is not WOW and I need to HTFU and etc, but i still view the eve community as a fairly mature one. Now if some kind souls will help me recoup the loss I will list them here and stop when I reach 1 bil. Yes, I did a mistake it's entirely my fault and I am asking for help from the community. Also I am willing to work for that bil, but now hours upon hours since cleary I am bad at what i do to gain ISK. Also i dont know how to paste the contract so you can see for yourselves.

Thanks in advance!

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Cheese Crackers
Malfurion Mining
#27 - 2014-12-18 20:24:34 UTC
I SMH so much when i logged on this morning to find the title changed to 'social experiment'. just goes to show the op is very much lacking in intelligence when it comes to anything of scientific nature. A social experiment is nothing more than a biased observation and to call it an experiment is to spit in the face of those who work hard to do real 'experiments' in all kinds of fields.
very disappointed in you OP but hey, now you are aware of another mistake you have made. live, learn, move on or die.
Athena Aideron
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-12-18 22:20:20 UTC
Bannorfista wrote:

Well lack of sympathy i kinda expected.

Blatantly offensive and enjoying one misery not so much. At least most of the guys here seem to enjoy when a human being is in distress and ye, that makes one a sociopath. Probably some of them enjoy hurting little animals.


U mad bro? You sound mad. Would you like a cookie? It's chocolate flavored Big smile


p.s I lied, it's raisins

I'M not having fun until YOU'RE not having fun.

Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-12-18 22:44:09 UTC
I once sold a perfect research Procurer BPO for 390 000 isk in a trade window scam. Did get mad, eh, a little, not really actually. Did I laugh, hell yeah, dude was sneaky. Did I cry about it on the forums? No. Did I send the guy hate mail? On the contrary, I sent him a mail congratulating him on getting the better of me. He was pleasantly surprised and explained how it worked. Very sneaky.

In summary, you screwed up. Make sure you don't let it happen again. Learn from your mistake like the rest of us did. ( I feel pretty confident in saying that everyone who has posted here has either lost isk to some for of scam, or came very close to doing so and caught it at the last second and averted the loss. )

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.

Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-12-18 22:44:57 UTC
Athena Aideron wrote:


Would you like a cookie? It's chocolate flavored Big smile


p.s I lied, it's raisins


You monster.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.

Bannorfista
GreedyGoblinCorp
#31 - 2014-12-18 23:00:50 UTC
Thanks for the clarifications, ye I labeled people way to fast. Some of you really helped. Others with smug jokes not so much. Still a better love story than WoW.
Starrakatt
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
#32 - 2014-12-18 23:48:00 UTC
I blew up a few people's ships lately, got mails from one asking questions, took time to answer and be helpful.

Another one I got in my personal chat room and explained how and why he died in game. He wasn't even mad, just a bit peeved about it. Sent him some ISK to replace the loss.

I am a **** and a sociopath monster.

I also do not do charity to beggars.

Live with your mistake. Blink

You are welcome.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-12-19 19:57:12 UTC
Bannorfista wrote:
Thanks for the clarifications, ye I labeled people way to fast. Some of you really helped. Others with smug jokes not so much. Still a better love story than WoW.


It's funny because it's true.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.

Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#34 - 2014-12-19 21:50:48 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
o.O
there's that word again. everyone's a psychologist these days.
So you wandered into C&P, posted about something bad happening to you due to not paying attention to details... and were expecting sympathy?
The result you got was predictable. The majority of the denizens here have no reason to care about your loss, hence the uncaring bit. vOv


it doesn't matter where you post or what you post, the forum trolls will always strike until a thread is locked.
immature people with small pricks trying to compensate for their lack of worth in life

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#35 - 2014-12-20 02:57:20 UTC
Bannorfista wrote:
After a long day at work i got some and did some unssuccesful station trading and I noticed a guy doing greed games in Jita. Since my main is a self proclaimed solo pvper(I won't link him but he is around 50% eff, so ye I suck) I jumped on a few contracts and bought a zealot for 1.1 bil.


Now I know this is not WOW and I need to HTFU and etc, but i still view the eve community as a fairly mature one. Now if some kind souls will help me recoup the loss I will list them here and stop when I reach 1 bil. Yes, I did a mistake it's entirely my fault and I am asking for help from the community. Also I am willing to work for that bil, but now hours upon hours since cleary I am bad at what i do to gain ISK. Also i dont know how to paste the contract so you can see for yourselves.

Thanks in advance!

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#36 - 2014-12-20 06:35:52 UTC
Agondray wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
o.O
there's that word again. everyone's a psychologist these days.
So you wandered into C&P, posted about something bad happening to you due to not paying attention to details... and were expecting sympathy?
The result you got was predictable. The majority of the denizens here have no reason to care about your loss, hence the uncaring bit. vOv


it doesn't matter where you post or what you post, the forum trolls will always strike until a thread is locked.
immature people with small pricks trying to compensate for their lack of worth in life


Announces everyone is immature.

Proceeds to say everyone whom enjoys the shady side of EvE has a small penis and is worthless in real life.

Sigh.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Bannorfista
GreedyGoblinCorp
#37 - 2014-12-20 11:16:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Bannorfista
Leto Thule wrote:
Agondray wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
o.O
there's that word again. everyone's a psychologist these days.
So you wandered into C&P, posted about something bad happening to you due to not paying attention to details... and were expecting sympathy?
The result you got was predictable. The majority of the denizens here have no reason to care about your loss, hence the uncaring bit. vOv


it doesn't matter where you post or what you post, the forum trolls will always strike until a thread is locked.
immature people with small pricks trying to compensate for their lack of worth in life


Announces everyone is immature.

Proceeds to say everyone whom enjoys the shady side of EvE has a small ***** and is worthless in real life.

Sigh.



On the bright side you start picking on each other, which kinda alleviates the negative attention I was getting. Remember, I am the bad guy here...Twisted
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#38 - 2014-12-20 11:28:09 UTC
Um. Welcome to C&P :)

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

admiral root
Red Galaxy
#39 - 2014-12-20 20:27:53 UTC
Bannorfista wrote:
Remember, I am the bad guy here...Twisted


OP had nowhere near enough demands for CCP to nerf ~whatever~, nor any references to bullies and sociopaths. You are not a bad guy.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#40 - 2014-12-20 21:00:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmy Zeta
Bannorfista wrote:


On the bright side you start picking on each other, which kinda alleviates the negative attention I was getting. Remember, I am the bad guy here...Twisted

You were begging for money with a rather fresh npc corp alt.
For most people, this is considered an obvious scam, that's why the reactions were accordingly.
We do, however, cherish newbies.
So, if this whole thing was an attempted scam and you are an adorable newbie still learning the ropes, just feel free to ask and people here will be happy to give you valuable tips on how to improve your craftsmanship.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

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