Player Features and Ideas Discussion

- I can´t see the point why you can´t hunt carriers. Titans can use the gates so you are not stuck. If this would be wise to hunt with a titan is another topic.

- You still can bridge people not as often as before but i use titan brigdges at least twice a day.

- You still can move your titan, now also through the gates, which you can´t pre phoebe.

I admit that the titan needs some love but your arguments are so weak. Titan should never be a good solo ship.

And as a fleet booster you still have the best bonuses (37,5% armor/shield etc) on top !

If you don´t wanna fly your titan anymore sell it, there should be some guy´s which are interested in buying one.

I would be okay with adding a larger tank on titans to make it harder to alpha them with dreads but the main thing of a titan is the same. They should be exclusive and they are.

Please correct me if i´m wrong

I'm pretty sure it's because they don't want you to have force projection. So going 20 jumps for a fight isn't intended. They want smaller entities fighting over smaller entities of space. You need to give it more time and let the dust settle from Pheobe.

We still bridge using titans and they still have DD.

Yeah because in 10k alliance a few ppl that cant jump because of the fatique will not effect the blueball :)

Inregion bridges should be jump fatique free or much lesser.

You are not going to see that again thats for sure :)

You said your stuck in the system. This is wrong you can move your titan it´s only because its to dangerous in your eyes to move it so you wanna to change it.

The point of the jump fatique was to limit the ability of the big power blocks to move fleet across the eve universe in a short time.

Why don´t you use your titan for a subcap booster, i had a fleet with a leviathan as fleet booster ( was a fleet with harpys).

And Titans should never be a soloship. The bigger the ship the more subfleet it should need. The bigger ships are a force multiplier.

e.g. 150 Tengus get a 37,5 % shield buff so you get about 206 which means 56 more. (From the shield hp).

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Pretending to take your argument seriously: Titans were designed as an alliance goal. Like stations, they are meant to take a lot of people and effort to have only a few of them. When you use a Titan it is mean to be serving the alliance. Completely the opposite to a solo ship.
"Hey guys! I bought a bus because I am rich and I did it solo! Why does it go so slow? Why is the handling so bad? Why do people keep looking at me and trying to ride on the bus?"

Okay, for the others reading this:

Phoebe is working as intended. Your Titan isn't meant to be able to jump all over space like a flea.

The whole plan is that null sec coalitions and alliances shrink and they can not defend huge useless and stationless tracts of space.

All your complaints = Yes! Perfect!

I have taken your post seriously and I have gone back over this thread. I have nothing more to add. There is no common ground on which I can begin to accept his perspective.

It would be like someone complaining that aimbots were effectively blocked from a game and then trying to agree that they can only be used every second round of the game.

This right here is your problem.

New players should NOT aim for a titan. It's something they all want because it's big and impressive, and costs a lot of money.

Make no mistake though, the titan is supposed to be an alliance support ship, not a good combat ship. You're essentially piloting a flying city, so you have no maneuverability. You have massive guns, so shooting down swarms of frigates is out. Your time to warp is laughable, and most of all, because titans are so expensive, everyone wants a killboard of one, so you'll never be left alone.

What is the titan good at? Well, your alliance can buy 20 jump freighters at about 7B each or it can buy 20 freighters at just over 1B and a titan at around 70B to bridge them to where you need them.

20*7B = 140B
20*1.1B + 70B = 92B

The numbers really start to make sense.

What else is the titan good at? Well, despite the recent jump changes, Titans are still one of the best means of force projection in an alliance to date. Gate travel is, as you mentioned, risky. Why would you risk bringing an entire fleet into that situation when a titan can get them there relatively safely?


Finally, the titan does have some limited combat capability, but usually only for massive fleet fights. Being a supercap, they have an outright ewar immunity, and they have one of the best weapons against carriers and dreads in the game. They show up on field, and they blast the bejeesus out of the carriers on grid. Want to stop them with your Celestis fleet wing? Sorry, no can do.

They are not, however, capable of taking fleets or even small groups of subcapitals. When was the last time you've seen a US Navy aircraft carrier out by itself in the middle of the ocean? The correct answer is, you don't. They're the true powers of the oceans, but they never travel alone. They're always surrounded by destroyers, frigates, and occasionally battleships.

I understand it's tempting to rush for a titan. You see the trailers, and the titans look really exciting. They look awesome, and the trailer tells you that it's possible for you to own one. That's true, but like all the ships in eve, it has a specific function, and you should fly the ship that does what you want or need it to do.

Why can't you appreciate all the hard work and training time he sacrificed to get into a titan. CCP owes him. I owe him. We all owe him.

I've set up a Disillusioned Titan Pilots fund. Anyone wishing to do the right thing and support these poor players in their time of need may send isk to me w/ the label "shattered dreams". Once I've gathered enough isk to do these folks some good - I'll repay them for the sacrifices they have endured on our behalf.