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Do capsuleers have to much Isk?
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Nano Spartan
US Space Force
Black Rose.
#1 - 2014-12-17 01:32:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Nano Spartan
I see a lot of capsuleers in ( Highsec, Lowsec, Wormhole space) both pve and pvp flying some really expensive stuff. I also look at that individuals kill boards and history. What i see most of the time is them dying in ships costing over 500m+ . Some friends argue with me that starting new in eve is to hard. Mostly due to players isk income not that players skill points when flying ships. So this makes me wonder, Do we as capsuleers have or save isk too easily? Are isk sinks really not that effective or is the risk really low with the tools and game mechanics in place?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#2 - 2014-12-17 01:34:29 UTC
Do you have a tl:dr I'm busy polishing my bittervet diamonds at the moment.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#3 - 2014-12-17 01:35:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
Quote:


Do capsuleers have to much Isk?
Two, too, to.

Learn them.

Mr Epeen Cool
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#4 - 2014-12-17 01:35:56 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Two, too, to.

Learn them.

Mr Epeen Cool


Your right.

☼

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Crimson Draufgange
The Seven Shadows
Scotch And Tea.
#5 - 2014-12-17 01:39:43 UTC
Their is way two much grammar correcting in this thread.

Lets get back on trak.

My Velator is overpowered.

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Paranoid Loyd
#6 - 2014-12-17 01:45:52 UTC
What's that you're saying? I can't hear you, I'm buried under a pile of loot and isk.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Blobskillz McBlub
Drone Riders
#7 - 2014-12-17 01:48:01 UTC
Nano Spartan wrote:
I see a lot of capsuleers in ( Highsec, Lowsec, Wormhole space) both pve and pvp flying some really expensive stuff. I also look at that individuals kill boards and history. What i see most of the time is them dying in ships costing over 500m+ . Some friends argue with me that starting new in eve is to hard. Mostly due to players isk income not that players skill points when flying ships. So this makes me wonder, Do we as capsuleers have or save isk too easily? Are isk sinks really not that effective or is the risk really low with the tools and game mechanics in place?


no

no

and no
Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-12-17 01:48:30 UTC
Translated: The OP seems to think that more money magically makes your ship better.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#9 - 2014-12-17 01:55:14 UTC
Hang on - you think that players are too reckless with their assets, but propose tightening up money supply via ISK sinks to fix this percieved problem?

How on earth do you think that reducing ISK in the economy would reduce the number of deadspace fitted tengus being flown?

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-12-17 01:57:13 UTC
Nano Spartan wrote:
I see a lot of capsuleers in ( Highsec, Lowsec, Wormhole space) both pve and pvp flying some really expensive stuff. I also look at that individuals kill boards and history. What i see most of the time is them dying in ships costing over 500m+ . Some friends argue with me that starting new in eve is to hard. Mostly due to players isk income not that players skill points when flying ships. So this makes me wonder, Do we as capsuleers have or save isk too easily? Are isk sinks really not that effective or is the risk really low with the tools and game mechanics in place?


I remember this thread from October. It's almost identical. I had to check to see that it wasn't necro'd. Turns out, this is a new one. So I'll give you the same answer I gave the last one: you can never have too much isk. There is only so much in the economy at any given time, and if ships are going to cost 500mil, then it needs to be possible for someone to make 500mil.

If there is a problem, it isn't the effectiveness of sinks. It's the ease with which isk can be made, in ALL secs of space, and the ease with which PVP can be avoided.

Starting new in EVE is definitely hard, but it's got nothing to do with how much isk you have. Money is easy to make, too easy. Learning how to make it, how to play the game, that's the hard part. And that's not necessarily a bad thing, because it is a natural filter against many who are just too lazy for this game's true nature.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#11 - 2014-12-17 01:58:33 UTC
hahahahah, the op's jelly

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#12 - 2014-12-17 02:05:46 UTC
Posting in a 'Nerf everyone else cuz they're better than me for reasons' thread.






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Badden Powell
No Chit
#13 - 2014-12-17 02:07:28 UTC
well, i have a solution to this problem. If anyone feels that they have too much ISK, I know a capsuleer who specializes in sequestering excess ISK and ensuring that it does not harm the rest of new eden in any way. if interested please send me an eve mail.

Thank you.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#14 - 2014-12-17 02:09:10 UTC
Badden Powell wrote:
well, i have a solution to this problem. If anyone feels that they have too much ISK, I know a capsuleer who specializes in sequestering excess ISK and ensuring that it does not harm the rest of new eden in any way. if interested please send me an eve mail.

Thank you.


No need to be the middle man, they all know to contact me directly by now.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#15 - 2014-12-17 02:32:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Tear Jar
Nano Spartan wrote:
I see a lot of capsuleers in ( Highsec, Lowsec, Wormhole space) both pve and pvp flying some really expensive stuff. I also look at that individuals kill boards and history. What i see most of the time is them dying in ships costing over 500m+ . Some friends argue with me that starting new in eve is to hard. Mostly due to players isk income not that players skill points when flying ships. So this makes me wonder, Do we as capsuleers have or save isk too easily? Are isk sinks really not that effective or is the risk really low with the tools and game mechanics in place?


It isn't the isk supply. Its the materials supply. Exploration changes have significantly lowered the price of deadspace modules and WH space changes over recent years have cause a substantial decrease in the cost of T3s. Plus we have stuff like UI improvements, MTU and mobile depots that have made it easier and faster to get things done.
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
#16 - 2014-12-17 02:34:46 UTC
Depends. If you farm a lot and don't pvp a lot, then its pretty easy to amass a stupid amount of ISK. If all you do is pvp (and die) and don't like doing any of EVE's money-making activities, then ISK can get pretty tight pretty quick. Unless you don't mind buying ISK off of people via PLEX, then ISK becomes trivial and meaningless again.
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#17 - 2014-12-17 02:35:52 UTC
Unezka Turigahl wrote:
Depends. If you farm a lot and don't pvp a lot, then its pretty easy to amass a stupid amount of ISK. If all you do is pvp (and die) and don't like doing any of EVE's money-making activities, then ISK can get pretty tight pretty quick. Unless you don't mind buying ISK off of people via PLEX, then ISK becomes trivial and meaningless again.


PvP can be very profitable(even if you die), so long as you do it in high sec.

PvPing in low or null is almost always an isk pit though.
Badden Powell
No Chit
#18 - 2014-12-17 02:39:03 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Badden Powell wrote:
well, i have a solution to this problem. If anyone feels that they have too much ISK, I know a capsuleer who specializes in sequestering excess ISK and ensuring that it does not harm the rest of new eden in any way. if interested please send me an eve mail.

Thank you.


No need to be the middle man, they all know to contact me directly by now.


Well played =)
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2014-12-17 04:09:15 UTC
Nano Spartan wrote:
. Some friends argue with me that starting new in eve is to hard. Mostly due to players isk income not that players skill points when flying ships.



Starting in EVE is not hard. if you sub for 12 months and then buy a PLEX pack you can have all the ISK (and ships) you could ever want. You can even go to the character bazaar and buy a ready trained character.

What your friends are actually saying is "playing completely for free in EVE is hard as a new player" .
Crimson Draufgange
The Seven Shadows
Scotch And Tea.
#20 - 2014-12-17 04:26:10 UTC
Hiasa Kite wrote:
Translated: The OP seems to think that more money magically makes your ship better.


Hmmm, must've played WoW.

My Velator is overpowered.

"I use my hairgel to tackle my targets because it has a long lasting firm hold." - Me.
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