EVE Information Portal

I love the look and feel of the new map.

Only one slight gripe, that being that it doesn't seem to be as easy to get important information as the old map.

When I set it to 'ships destroyed in the last hour' etc which is the default for many capsuleers the map light's up, but it's subtle compared to the old map. What is bright red on the old map is hardly visible at all on the new.

Likewise if I hover the mouse over a target start system no tool tip pops up to show me exactly how many ships have been destroyed within that last hour etc.

Having said that it's a beta feature and I may well have a bug, if others are successfully using it without this issue.

Now for the praise...

I love the look and feel and love the direction that features like this are taking us in.

Well done to the Devs for giving us some nice looking eye candy which bolsters the sci fi theme and certainly adds to immersion.

Great Map, thanks for putting it out in Beta - though as noted, needs tweaks


I seem to have broken it when I looked at places I've visited. Came up with nothing (have done ~90% of systems)


Since look at that view, I no longer get any stars - just region names, and another "text message" when I zoom in. Which I've got a theory about btw....


DO hope so much that pas system visits carry over to the newer map eventually. Still shows up correctly on the old one....


and to finish off - yes it does look/feel good - even at this early stage


Cheers

awesome map :) it would be more useful if:

-system names would be visible even if a little bit zoomed out (right now you have to zoom really close to see the names of a system in a constellation)
-route more visible
-if we could get some visual feedback if we hover the mouse over a far away system (like at the old map, the system gets a little white circle)

Is anybody else having trouble seeing the Highlighted route to a destination?

Don't know if it's been said already but making the route much bolder would be great, because currently I can barely differentiate it from the rest of the systems around it. Sometimes I even have to switch it to "Actual colour" mode to see where i'm going.

It's not a huge problem, just something i've noticed

Most of my feedback has already been said. As a longtime neo-luddite, I like this new map a lot more than I thought I would.

The 3D presentation is much more usable. I love that the map pivots around the currently selected star. The old map is clumsier that way.

The glow effect is pretty, but dialing it back a notch might be helpful. My use case here is that studying the old map, it was quickly apparent that most of the stargates in Jove space have been removed. With the new map's glow, that was hard to spot without zooming pretty close to those regions.

Statistical coloring, like ship kills past 24 hours, the beta could learn a lot from the old map.

Mouse-over pop up info - yep, that star is orange with ship kills, but how orange is it?

It's a great start. But let's get it right before replacing what works. Do CCP gather client statistics? Wait until the majority of players opt to use the beta map before even thinking about making it the only map.

My "systems visited" is now working - Thanks


Would be nice if the systems data/colour is a little bit more prominent against the background. On my system (mac retina), the systems are kinda small and the background makes it hard to clearly get info


Perhaps make the systems a little bigger on the map - and reintroduce the 'size' that used to happen with systems that are more visited?


Cheers

The new map, looks nice...

For the moment, it doesn't do at minima what the old map does.

I hope your next stage, is to reach the same information quality than the old map.
For example when you zoom into the star system, you cannot see anymore, belt , planet with their orbit and real position in space.
For tactical reason this is a downside.

You cannot look in details the route between gates and where to put bubble, camp or avoid it.
Where people are more likely to try to avoid a bubble for example, so you could refine your tactics.

All the stats cannot been seen properly, but I hope is due to the early stage of the development.

For the next version, it would be nice to add some feature, like not only avoiding system, but region link to the faction standing.
We live in a technological marvel, and your onboard computer cannot tell you that you that the route is a security risk. (well I wish one day we could have assistant like cortana, that's on xmas list)

Another idea, if there is several route possible, same number of jump, the system should offer alternative route and it's up to the player to choose his path.

Another one, is to tell the map, you wish to avoid systems with a certain number of ship kill or other items from the stat list, thats for the industrialist (lots of friends) who are the silent majority here, but took a large toll on easy kill.

So for the moment, I will continue to use the old map, until the new one reach at least the same quality standard.

PLEASE do not remove the old map.

There's nothing the new one does that can be seen as an improvement. It's simply less clear, less readable and overall just a total mess that makes everything more blurred.

I FEAR the day you arbitrarily decide that the new map is good and so remove the old one, exactly as you did by switching to the new UI without an option to opt out.

Please improve the game, instead of breaking it further and removing options (like you did for the UI by removing custom colors).

Is there still plan to show multiple data types on map at once?
For instance looking for low sec systems with low jump count or number of pilots in system. Or even low sec, low number of pilots in system, low jump count and at least 2 station with repair service in system.


The easiest to code that I can think of is colored dot (data type #1) with colored ring (data type #2). But is limited to 2 data types effectively and is hard to read quickly (not always visually grabbing attention to best matches).


The nicest and best way to show user desired sweet spots is a bit more complicated....
basically use current colored & variable sized balls for a value determined from the product of several selected data types.

But not only does a user need to be able to select data types but also to indicate which vaule is most desirable. That is for system security is high or low better?

Data types with open ended BIGGER is better enter calculations as raw numbers. Others may need to simply be reversed when user says less is better (pod kills) i.e. subtract actual value from current max value of data in EVE.

But users may be even more exacting -- is 0.5 more desirable than either 1.0 or 0?

So basically for all data types the user should be able to designate the most preferred value. And if the data type has a linear range, the more the deviation of the actual value from that ideal user value then the more scaled value used in composition data type product calculations falls from 1 toward 0. Might want a toggle to allow users to weight one side of the scale heavier than the other (i.e. higher sec deviations preferred over lower),

For certain data types with small number of exact values - it might be possible to allow the user to set a preferred order or assign numeric weights (more flexible if 2 or more answers are equally desirable). Also an option to treat any data type as binary effect of yes (acceptable) or no (0 - shortcircut further calculation) with an acceptance range or set of values.

Probably need a radio button to allow one critical data type with discrete values to display as a hard colored dot inside. For instance repair station in system may be highly desirable but cannot be allowed to throw off calculated value of an otherwise ideal system...especially if the crap system next door has a repair facility. Or maybe dotted data inside fuzzy ball is exact system security.

oh could you display digital results near system or sun if at a certain level of zoom?

At least for data that is only 1-3 digits long. though I would think 4-5 digits would not be too difficult at certain levels of zoom.

Hmmm...as user zooms in closer certain single digit data is annotated first then 2 digit then 3 digit etc.


In fact even on maps zoomed way out, maybe there should be a certain point where data balls should not get bigger but should only change color and be marked with digits. Because currently the biggest balls start blocking out more and more neighboring systems making it near imposisble to read whole sections of map.