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Dev blog: Download on Demand client for EVE Online

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CCP Gargant
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2014-12-16 15:00:05 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
The way the EVE Online client is deployed is set to change next year. Instead of me trying to paraphrase how it works, I highly suggest you head on over and read the details in the dev blog written by CCP Snorlax.

It is found here.

Feedback will be highly appreciated as the starts rolling out so make sure to try it out!

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ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-12-16 15:08:26 UTC
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Samsara Toldya
Academy of Contradictory Behaviour
#3 - 2014-12-16 15:18:46 UTC
Quote:
What about the offline installer?

We will still offer a way to install from a pre-downloaded package, if for example you need to transfer it on a USB stick.


"Still"... I thought that option was no longer supported?

Say I have a slow connection without any options to upgrade - on top of that there is a monthly volume I am allowed to download until my connection speed is reduced even more (or I have to pay an extra fee for spare bandwith).
As it is I'm running into volume issues every release and the new way to release patches won't change this. The new release cycle made this special situation even worse.

Right now (without 'exploiting' the no longer supported method) I do need an EVE installation to download the releases/patches before I am able to transfer it on a USB stick.
At work I would be allowed to download files (lucky me) but for :reasons: I am not allowed to install EVE.

For sure I am not the only one with limited volume - please consider a way to download the releases/patches without a working EVE installation.
Right now I create my own URL to download the .zip file as soon as I find out release/version-number.
It sounds as if that wouldn't be possible next year What?
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#4 - 2014-12-16 15:27:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Chribba
I demand you leave my boot.ini alone

also does this mean I can make this a slim installation that never downloads any extra resources? Will I be able to play the game at heavily sucky textures and whatnot?

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Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#5 - 2014-12-16 15:29:52 UTC
What is this "shared location"? Please don't make it appdata or anything that maps to it. AppData stays on c:/ and I imagine for a lot of us that's typically a smaller SSD that's not really intended to go storing 15GB+ of EVE assets.
Cristl
#6 - 2014-12-16 15:36:21 UTC
Sentient Blade wrote:
What is this "shared location"? Please don't make it appdata or anything that maps to it. AppData stays on c:/ and I imagine for a lot of us that's typically a smaller SSD that's not really intended to go storing 15GB+ of EVE assets.


A good question
Airi Cho
Dark-Rising
Wrecking Machine.
#7 - 2014-12-16 15:36:35 UTC
Sentient Blade wrote:
What is this "shared location"? Please don't make it appdata or anything that maps to it. AppData stays on c:/ and I imagine for a lot of us that's typically a smaller SSD that's not really intended to go storing 15GB+ of EVE assets.



+1
Scarlet Bear
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-12-16 15:39:33 UTC
Very much same way as World of Warcraft works,
downloads it self as you play as you get to other part of map it downloads that part of the map
CCP Maxwell
C C P
C C P Alliance
#9 - 2014-12-16 15:39:34 UTC
Airi Cho wrote:
Sentient Blade wrote:
What is this "shared location"? Please don't make it appdata or anything that maps to it. AppData stays on c:/ and I imagine for a lot of us that's typically a smaller SSD that's not really intended to go storing 15GB+ of EVE assets.



+1


The default location is in C:\ProgramData, but you will be able to choose where to put the cache.

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Forlorn Wongraven
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#10 - 2014-12-16 15:43:38 UTC
So when reading this I get the impression that I can a very small install on my netbook just to log in my trader in Jita. Correct?

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TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#11 - 2014-12-16 15:43:40 UTC  |  Edited by: TheSmokingHertog
Sentient Blade wrote:
What is this "shared location"? Please don't make it appdata or anything that maps to it. AppData stays on c:/ and I imagine for a lot of us that's typically a smaller SSD that's not really intended to go storing 15GB+ of EVE assets.


Or let us set the AppData location in the installer, good we can choose it :D

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TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#12 - 2014-12-16 15:45:13 UTC
Its good we can still have the full installer or the download option, for my laptops I would go the light download and for my full system the full package, can you set it in general settings before updating? or in the update itself?

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Noriko Mai
#13 - 2014-12-16 15:47:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Noriko Mai
Quote:
There are many implications to this change, but rest assured –that none of this will be deployed until we have full confidence in our new deployment method and are sure it will not disrupt your gameplay experience in EVE.

Muahahahah hahahaha. Like the Launcher release?

EDIT: It's doesn't ask me where to cache before downloading to C:\ProgramData.... Please CCP, leave my ******* partitions alone. Put the default to "install folder"/res_cache or ask in the install dialog. Pretty please with sugar on top.

"Meh.." - Albert Einstein
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#14 - 2014-12-16 15:47:47 UTC
sounds interesting. i can imagine the client would continue downloading stuff while a noob would watch the intro, create the char or read tutorial text, till the client is complete.

my only concern is the following: it all sounded as if a handful of big "stuff" files will be exploded to thousands small files which could influence loading performance on anything which is not a ssd.

It also sounds as if it will complicate client updates for you guys. I guess the launcher will now only update the "core" and leave everything else for the client in on-demand fashion. If a stuff file breaks will the repair tool notice it?

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CCP Maxwell
C C P
C C P Alliance
#15 - 2014-12-16 15:52:19 UTC
Mac users that wish to try this out on Duality:
We still have stability issues on the Mac, but if you head on to Duality, take a moment to enter the launcher settings and add /resManThreadCount=2 to the Startup Argument field.

[img]http://files.eveprobe.ccpgames.com/mac_launcher_args.PNG[/img]

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Kossaw
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#16 - 2014-12-16 15:52:32 UTC
Sounds a great idea....

What does the installer do when the disk runs out of space during the download - you know its going to happen. Some newbie is going to fill their C drive while playing the game.

Some parts of the world still have crappy internet service plans. Will there be any way to control how much gets downloaded and when ? Like can I play on basic resolution this afternoon but set the client to download the rest of the files at 3 am ?

Can I set the game client to update itself every day at 3 am without having to start the launcher manually ?

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-12-16 15:56:41 UTC
is there a way to stop the download after all low ressources have been loaded ? (thinking about mobile connections)

and does this mean that we will see super high res textures soon(tm)?
Agent Known
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-12-16 16:00:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Agent Known
Just ran through the install and it does appear to go under %Appdata% ...so C:\Users\user\Appdata\Local\CCP.

Edit: Also, it's configured in the Launcher settings to be under C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ...so it can be changed.
CCP Maxwell
C C P
C C P Alliance
#19 - 2014-12-16 16:04:34 UTC
Agent Known wrote:
Just ran through the install and it does appear to go under %Appdata% ...so C:\Users\user\Appdata\Local\CCP.

Edit: Also, it's configured in the Launcher settings to be under C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ...so it can be changed.


Those would likely be the usual client settings. Not the resources. Have you tried looking into C:\ProgramData\CCP\EVE\SharedCache ?

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Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#20 - 2014-12-16 16:05:35 UTC
so whats the point of this exactly? .. will it speed things up or down?

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

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