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Why not multiply timer by 10 after -10 outlaws suicide attack?

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Finde learth
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-12-16 07:47:09 UTC
This only affect those -10 outlaws that still keep suicide attack in high sec.

They still can move to low sec or null sec. They just can't suicide attack every 15 min.

If they don't want to wait 150 min, they can buy security tags.

ps: I am not selling security tags.
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#2 - 2014-12-16 07:56:31 UTC
Finde learth wrote:
This only affect those -10 outlaws that still keep suicide attack in high sec.

So once I reach -10.0 I just go shoot a rat or two and get back to 15min timers? Sounds good.

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CerN Frostwolf
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-12-16 07:58:47 UTC
Finde learth wrote:
This only affect those -10 outlaws that still keep suicide attack in high sec.

They still can move to low sec or null sec. They just can't suicide attack every 15 min.

If they don't want to wait 150 min, they can buy security tags.

ps: I am not selling security tags.



If CCP didn't want suicide ganking to be an option, it wouldn't be possible in the first place.
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-12-16 08:06:54 UTC
I'd rather see minus sec accelerate concord response myself but I stopped mining .5 years ago so it's secondary to my game.

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#5 - 2014-12-16 08:06:59 UTC
How about every time you get popped, the standings of the aggressor change depending on the relative standings between yours and the aggressor's with NPC corporations and factions. Let's say, the difference when it matters is 5, so if you have 5 standings with the Minmatar Mining Company and the suicide monkey has none, he gets a penalty. same your -10 with the Angel Cartel will give the monkey a bonus with them. Similar, but reduced in magnitude, with faction standings.

Of course standings would first have to mean something before this would be worthwhile implementing.

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Siegfried Cohenberg
Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling
Freighter Friends
#6 - 2014-12-16 08:17:01 UTC
why not just allow freighters to equip a gank whistle that spawns concord near them
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2014-12-16 08:18:00 UTC
How about people just blow up these -10s?
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#8 - 2014-12-16 08:18:31 UTC
Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:
why not just allow freighters to equip a gank whistle that spawns concord near them

They already can, it's called a buddy in a rookie ship who valiantly tries to pregank them.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#9 - 2014-12-16 08:18:55 UTC
Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:
why not just allow freighters to equip a gank whistle that spawns concord near them

Or put a CONCORD Freighter in the LP shop that comes with a permanent escort as long as you're in high-sec?

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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-12-16 08:58:03 UTC
Why should they change anything? It's completely possible to evade any suicide gank.
Just because people go AFK, and/or are too lazy to have spatial awareness, doesn't mean to say that something needs to be fixed.

It's a reeducation that needs to occur, and not one on part of the gankers.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#11 - 2014-12-16 09:03:37 UTC
Finde learth wrote:
This only affect those -10 outlaws that still keep suicide attack in high sec.

They still can move to low sec or null sec. They just can't suicide attack every 15 min.

If they don't want to wait 150 min, they can buy security tags.

ps: I am not selling security tags.

As -10's can already be shot on sight by any player and are constantly pursued by faction police as matters stand, I just don't see what justification there might be for making the mechanics even more hostile towards them.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Finde learth
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-12-16 09:11:54 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Finde learth wrote:
This only affect those -10 outlaws that still keep suicide attack in high sec.

They still can move to low sec or null sec. They just can't suicide attack every 15 min.

If they don't want to wait 150 min, they can buy security tags.

ps: I am not selling security tags.

As -10's can already be shot on sight by any player and are constantly pursued by faction police as matters stand, I just don't see what justification there might be for making the mechanics even more hostile towards them.


Do you ever catch any -10 pods or ships(not killed by concord) by yourself in high sec?
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#13 - 2014-12-16 09:22:28 UTC
Can't say I've ever tried to, to be honest. But, then again, I'm not the one who cares what they're up to.
You seem to care. Why don't you give it a shot?

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#14 - 2014-12-16 10:04:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Sol Project
This troll again. I remember you.

Now get lost already.

And please stop the bullshit argument on the -10 side.
The faction police is a nuissance, not a real issue.

Noobs.

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Serene Repose
#15 - 2014-12-16 10:39:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
Karl Hobb wrote:
Finde learth wrote:
This only affect those -10 outlaws that still keep suicide attack in high sec.

So once I reach -10.0 I just go shoot a rat or two and get back to 15min timers? Sounds good.

A rat or two....let's say .001 in security gain per highest rated rat in one system over a ten-minute period of time. (That's probably too complicated for a ganker to figure out alone. Get mummy to help....if your mum can do math....sorry.
No, really.)

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#16 - 2014-12-16 11:53:34 UTC
Finde learth wrote:
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Finde learth wrote:
This only affect those -10 outlaws that still keep suicide attack in high sec.

They still can move to low sec or null sec. They just can't suicide attack every 15 min.

If they don't want to wait 150 min, they can buy security tags.

ps: I am not selling security tags.

As -10's can already be shot on sight by any player and are constantly pursued by faction police as matters stand, I just don't see what justification there might be for making the mechanics even more hostile towards them.


Do you ever catch any -10 pods or ships(not killed by concord) by yourself in high sec?

Never
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Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#17 - 2014-12-16 12:20:54 UTC
Finde learth wrote:
This only affect those -10 outlaws that still keep suicide attack in high sec.

They still can move to low sec or null sec. They just can't suicide attack every 15 min.

If they don't want to wait 150 min, they can buy security tags.

ps: I am not selling security tags.


Why don't you learn how to defend yourself?
Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2014-12-16 12:51:18 UTC
Finde learth wrote:
This only affect those -10 outlaws that still keep suicide attack in high sec.

They still can move to low sec or null sec. They just can't suicide attack every 15 min.

Why not tank your ship? You can still haul, mine, mission, rat, explore etc, but only at 90% yield.

10% yield too much to give up to aid in your own survival? You're playing the wrong game.

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Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-12-16 12:53:13 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
How about people just blow up these -10s?


That would require *efforting*.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#20 - 2014-12-16 12:59:39 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
I should make a spreadsheet depicting the standings of the different forum posters towards each other, ISD in general and CCL specifically, containing formulas that calculate interdependent standing loss/gain when I nuke threads like these from orbit.

That said, if and when you have a serious and well worded proposal for the betterment of EvE, please feel free to post it in the Features & Ideas Discussion part of the forum.

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