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Players Police.

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Brandi Wiseman
Den Sorte Loge
#101 - 2014-12-10 13:10:09 UTC
While I think that any concept of PC policing is doomed to fail, there is one obvious place that it might work, at least for a short time: THERA

Any attempt to police HS is ultimately futile. Concord already do so and even when you try to step in to protect you risk becoming a target for Concord yourself (in certain situations). Moreover, Concord is a reactive rather than proactive force focused purely on punitive action rather than protection. Meanwhile, LS is far too big for any one group to try, while NS is already policed in a sense through sovereignty rights.

Thera might actually be possible. It's one system, albeit a massive one, with four stations that provide obvious places to 'protect' and scannable entry points. A police force in Thera could conceivably work. Concord isn't an issue as this is wormhole space, while there is no sovereignty. A corporation, e.g. Thera Law Protection (THELAW - lol) could (seek to) function out of the four stations and protect incoming and outgoing traffic from Thera.

They could take on contracts to protect specific freighters coming in to Thera from inc WH through to station docking and engage in bounty hunting those in Thera with a high enough bounty. The corporation would have to be 'neutral' and be allied to the SOE/Sanctuary faction to be consistent with the law. This might need the major Alliances to underpin the initiative (hard to achieve). They would also have to be scrupulously honest and even-handed building a reputation for providing a fair service (similar to Red Frog for transport contracts). One person from the corp who engages in 'illegal activity' would risk the overall reputation.

(I wouldn't recommend it quite yet though, not until the furore over Thera has quietened down and become 'part of the furniture'!)

Fly Caldari!

XeX Znndstrup
#102 - 2014-12-10 19:08:40 UTC
LS isn't fat too big to hunt the vicious.
He is in some systems with his brothers. He feels safe, too coward to assume his faults alone.

They will have no house where to hide.
Nor HS, Nor NS and nor LS.

There is no reason to let them think they are masters of systems everyone know the name.
Old Man Star will be a sheepfold when shepherds of The Law will spread the faith.
And assassins will be sheeps eating in our hand.

There was a time for chaos some years ago.
And the divine designer offered us the peace. CONCORD was created, implacable face the vileness.
We are his sons and the hands of flesh of CONCORD. But not so tender.
We want more than peace in HS.

And believers will come, and come again, understanding the undisputed attitude.

There will be no miner, no trader and no industrialist afraid because they only want to earn their life.
They will pray for this. They will help for this, discreetly.
Destroying is easy. Building less.

The Third Age of New Eden is coming.
Everyone will remember in the future it was called The Law.




Judge of The Law Organization and President of Stellar Order.

"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light". John Milton, Lost Paradise.

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Daerrol
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#103 - 2014-12-13 13:57:45 UTC
I find these posts insulting. As I make my way down to -10 I have remembered my carebear roots and taken the time to honor and respect them.
XeX Znndstrup
#104 - 2014-12-13 15:41:56 UTC
Thanks for your visit on our channel.

Judge of The Law Organization and President of Stellar Order.

"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light". John Milton, Lost Paradise.

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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#105 - 2014-12-13 16:44:57 UTC
How is the rebellion going?
XeX Znndstrup
#106 - 2014-12-13 16:59:28 UTC
Rebellion is only against dictatorship.

Judge of The Law Organization and President of Stellar Order.

"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light". John Milton, Lost Paradise.

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Saint Celeste
Doomheim
#107 - 2014-12-13 23:31:43 UTC
XeX Znndstrup wrote:
Rebellion is only against dictatorship.


i like the idea of a PC driven honor bound police force, but this is eve, scams galore, why trust you over CODE, when people largely don't trust CODE i mean what is different about the two of you beside one has a false sense of security and the other a false sense of confidence in the field, why should people have to feel beholden to a moralistic approach to a game when it fails dismally in RL?

what i am saying is all good things become corrupt by power and as far as i see it your group will be no different in the long run [if it lasts that long]

that said i think it'll end in failure like many before have tried and failed.
Chronoxi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#108 - 2014-12-14 00:14:29 UTC
Guys, if the OP is not trolling you should help him understand.

serious player police corps don't exist. Because it is not viable to do so.

The bounty system doesn't work like you think it does, it does not provide incentives to hunt down anyone. I don't need a bounty to shoot people, I do it with or without bounty. And putting bounty on someone is just a waste of money, because their ships will pop with or without your bounty anyways.

lol, how do you prosecute a bunch of suicide catalyst ganking a freighter?

It's a killboard statistics game the gankers are playing, it's all about ISK efficiency.
You can kill their catalyst however many times you want, end of the day, they won with superior statistics.

weeeeEEEEEEEEEE are never ever ever!

Bianca Silver
Division 13
#109 - 2014-12-14 00:31:49 UTC
Chronoxi wrote:
serious player police corps don't exist. Because it is not viable to do so.

I'm always serious.

XeX Znndstrup
#110 - 2014-12-14 10:05:16 UTC  |  Edited by: XeX Znndstrup
Let's make a difference between the perfect vision of reality and the true reality.
The first helps the second to be better.

It's not possible to eradicate this rot at each moment.
That's very sad for us.
But don't let it be a reason for chaos.

Some speak about good roleplay, ISK or statistics.
We let you know you would find this also in the side of the righteous.
You speak about moral ? We speak about embodiment of moral by elimination.

The fair or the malignant, when he speaks, help us to understand what and how he wants.
We are grateful.

But, in any case, nothing is eternal, my brothers.
The world is black if you want it.
Or light if you fight for it.

It will take time.
But we have the time.
Some have been making their fortune for ten years using tools offered by this deep world.
We see, unscrupulous assassins, that you could be afraid we would be able to use the same time, the same tools, but to remove you as an unwanted dust.

You, who has hope, you who isn't so convinced by this way of leading or these "statistics", let you come and confess to us.
Let you give us the Church tax with your ships, your ISK or your will power.
You will see so the path of light.

We hear your peal of laughter.
The more, the merrier.

Judge of The Law Organization and President of Stellar Order.

"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light". John Milton, Lost Paradise.

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Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#111 - 2014-12-14 10:26:06 UTC
Mag's wrote:
XeX Znndstrup wrote:
... and protecting fair citizens.
Who would they be, who would judge them to be so and how?


I'm the fairest in all the land.
Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#112 - 2014-12-14 10:34:50 UTC
Posting in a Veers-alt thread full of bannable offenses.

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Chisa May
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#113 - 2014-12-20 22:48:38 UTC
Brandi Wiseman wrote:
Meanwhile, LS is far too big for any one group to try


You're right, but I'm sure a single Corp could handle patrolling a region or constellation rife with Solo PvPers. There'd be lots of action and a possiblity for some good fights for sure, and the presence of this "law enforcement" corp could encourage some HS carebears to venture out a little futher out of their comfort zones.

I think this would be a nice addition to the Eve community overall.
Rhatar Khurin
Doomheim
#114 - 2014-12-21 09:35:14 UTC
All the tools are there if you want to make yourself some kind of Public safety officer.

The only thing really missing would be a way of getting to a crime in progress quickly. But if you wanted to be serious about it would could set up a global channel that all "crimes" are reported into and whomever is nearest goes to investigate.
XeX Znndstrup
#115 - 2014-12-21 11:45:23 UTC  |  Edited by: XeX Znndstrup
Channel exists, my brother.

Judge of The Law Organization and President of Stellar Order.

"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light". John Milton, Lost Paradise.

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Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#116 - 2014-12-21 12:04:45 UTC
I'm going with the suggestion to join CVA and make yourself part of the group that flies out to grab those that violate the NRDS rule they uphold in 'greater providence".

Or shoot innocent folks like me for that matter.

Maybe I should call a lawyer...

Anyway, it seems pretty close to a "police-force". They even have a channel to report "a crime" I believe.
XeX Znndstrup
#117 - 2014-12-21 13:06:04 UTC  |  Edited by: XeX Znndstrup
CVA are our brothers.
It's surely a respectable alliance.

We are not intending to be a corporation or an alliance.
There are here enough faithful fighters in this world for this.

The Law intends to be an organization against the crime.
Calling, using, helping, coordinating these types of corporations/alliances which will keep their autonomy and talents in their work.

Assassins are everywhere in this unmerciful world.
But, thanks to divine designer, citizens who want to live in peace also.
We will give them the ability to make hear their voice in a pragmatic way.

We are dealing with vicious ennemies.
We need means with added value to fight them.

Judge of The Law Organization and President of Stellar Order.

"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light". John Milton, Lost Paradise.

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Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#118 - 2014-12-21 13:17:26 UTC
There's players who try to be police but usually it ends up with them getting punished. :)

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist

XeX Znndstrup
#119 - 2014-12-21 19:38:18 UTC
The habit...
We are not believing in this.

Judge of The Law Organization and President of Stellar Order.

"Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light". John Milton, Lost Paradise.

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