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Make ancient races appear on map
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Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
#1 - 2014-12-01 00:39:08 UTC
There are four ancient races in EVE. They are Talocan, Sleepers, Takmahl and Yan Jung. Their archeological sites can be found in EVE in certain constellations or areas of space. This information comes from EVE wiki. For some weird reason there is no ingame information in EVE where these sites can be found.

I propose that these areas of space where these sites can be found are marked on map.

Comments are welcome for my idea.

Mikhem

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Gay Pornstar
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-12-01 00:55:22 UTC
I can think of no reason why the map shouldnt have more functionality. +1

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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#3 - 2014-12-01 00:57:57 UTC
Supported, pretty neat idea.

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#4 - 2014-12-01 01:17:13 UTC
Mikhem wrote:
...For some weird reason there is no ingame information in EVE where these sites can be found.


Could it be that there is a reason for that pickle?

And yes, give the map much more information!

The map should always show, what you can find in space at any given time, pilots, the ship they are flying, where they are, what they have fit and what they are doing.
The current position in a solar system, where the link boat is, how many cloakers and where the cloakers are and what they are doing, what asteroids the miners are mining, which mission each player is doing and where.

Maybe the map gets not updated so qickly that the data is only updated once every 5 minutes, so that it cannot be abused.

Imagine you would have to find that out on your own.. (Neon-sign says, go there)

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Doomheim
#5 - 2014-12-01 01:46:26 UTC
+1, in game sites feel sort of patchy and hard to find out about. Since theyre looking at map functionality anyways, this is an opportune time as well for stuff like this.
Kaerakh
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#6 - 2014-12-01 01:47:00 UTC
+1 More buttons for my map is always nice.

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Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#7 - 2014-12-01 04:40:04 UTC
The archaeologist part of me says, "Hell yes!"

+1

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Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
#8 - 2014-12-13 23:57:10 UTC
Only reason why I even know ancient races exist is skill books. I have had habit reading all skills through in skill system and this is place where I have found information that these ancient races exist. Each race have their own skill book in science section: Talocan skill book, Sleeper skill book, Takmahl skill book and Yan Jung skill book.

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#9 - 2014-12-14 00:09:44 UTC
elitatwo wrote:

Could it be that there is a reason for that pickle?

And yes, give the map much more information!

The map should always show, what you can find in space at any given time, pilots, the ship they are flying, where they are, what they have fit and what they are doing.
The current position in a solar system, where the link boat is, how many cloakers and where the cloakers are and what they are doing, what asteroids the miners are mining, which mission each player is doing and where.

Maybe the map gets not updated so qickly that the data is only updated once every 5 minutes, so that it cannot be abused.

Imagine you would have to find that out on your own.. (Neon-sign says, go there)

Yes, it's entirely probable that you would go find out on your own BASIC COMMON KNOWLEDGE!
Or wait, no it's not and you are just being stupid with your hyperbole.
They are not asking for the map to show exact locations in systems. But the REGIONS in which those ancient races live. So people know where to start looking.

People should never have to use third party tools to play the game, and EVE currently is very poor at that.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-12-14 00:15:31 UTC
I'm against exploration less about exploring and more about just making isk.

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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#11 - 2014-12-14 03:43:36 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:


People should never have to use third party tools to play the game, and EVE currently is very poor at that.


This much I agree with.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#12 - 2014-12-14 07:31:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
They are not asking for the map to show exact locations in systems. But the REGIONS in which those ancient races live. So people know where to start looking.

People should never have to use third party tools to play the game, and EVE currently is very poor at that.

First off: Lived. They are extinct.
Secondly: EVElopedia is no third-party tool. However, it should be better ... let me correct that: it should be integrated into the game in the first place like the Civilopedia is integrated into Civilization games. Then again, especially the articles about Takmahl, Yan Jung and Talocan are stub and don't give much information beyond their ancient constellation of residence. That means players and CCP would need to put some effort into these and a lot of other articles.

Thirdly: Yes, I agree with the suggestion. I know that their constellations are high lighted on the map (Araz, Okkelen and Algintal), but the descriptions of these POIs does not mention the ancient races, only other trivia.

elitatwo wrote:
Could it be that there is a reason for that pickle?

And yes, give the map much more information!

The map should always show, what you can find in space at any given time, pilots, the ship they are flying, where they are, what they have fit and what they are doing.
The current position in a solar system, where the link boat is, how many cloakers and where the cloakers are and what they are doing, what asteroids the miners are mining, which mission each player is doing and where.

Maybe the map gets not updated so qickly that the data is only updated once every 5 minutes, so that it cannot be abused.

Imagine you would have to find that out on your own.. (Neon-sign says, go there)

Information about the whereabouts of fleet members is already available in the current F10 map. However, giving away the exact position of a people in a solar system is a questionable suggestion. It can be abused by spies who can easily tell the location of the fleet links to their masters and thus remove a lot of effort and risk from the spying, ie. currently the spies have to either warp to the link and give an exact position, which exposes them, or can't tell anything except for the ship type to look fore and a general direction maybe.

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