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Why all the HATERS?
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#81 - 2011-12-16 13:07:24 UTC
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
A lot of these kiddies are angry. And picking on the physically or military weak has been the predominant theme for the most angriest and hateful of people and societies in history. Political despots and bullies come to mind. For those with less access to political and social power, internet anonymity becomes their playground to enact feelings in ways they normally would not. And "carebears" (high sec dwellers) are considered the physically and militarily weak and so, become their target of choice.

But as despicable as some of these feelings are (such as hate), it is better they act socially rotten and inept in a game than to project these feelings of inadequacies outside a forum and face-to-face, as the consequences can be much more dire. The lesser of two evils, I suppose.
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DickbeardThePirate
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2011-12-16 15:31:35 UTC
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
A lot of these kiddies are angry. And picking on the physically or military weak has been the predominant theme for the most angriest and hateful of people and societies in history. Political despots and bullies come to mind. For those with less access to political and social power, internet anonymity becomes their playground to enact feelings in ways they normally would not. And "carebears" (high sec dwellers) are considered the physically and militarily weak and so, become their target of choice.

But as despicable as some of these feelings are (such as hate), it is better they act socially rotten and inept in a game than to project these feelings of inadequacies outside a forum and face-to-face, as the consequences can be much more dire. The lesser of two evils, I suppose.



Hold on... what if... no seriously WHAT IF... eve is just an incredibly boring game that is only made interesting by player conflict. No seriously, I lived in high security space for a while. About 7 months actually. I only logged on to the game when I needed to update my skill queue and ran a mission like once a week. I cannot even feasibly imagine how you could play eve "full time" in hi-sec. It's literally worse then any other mmo if you play it like that, a point I think was made well and truthfully in Zero Punctuation's review of the game a few years back (never mind that he disregarded all the things that make the game good).

I respect your choice to play the most boring game in existence, but mutual hostility is a part of the nullsec culture. A gentlemen's agreement to try and wreck each other's **** as hard and as frequently as possible. We don't hate each other, and we don't hate you, we're just trying to make the game interesting and dynamic for the both of us because without that there would literally be no reason to play eve instead of wow or microsoft excel.
Singeabooty Raj
Doomheim
#83 - 2011-12-16 16:25:07 UTC
All the hate stems from excessive neckbeard alcohol consumption.

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Jack Cavanaugh
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#84 - 2011-12-16 20:49:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Cavanaugh
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
A lot of these kiddies are angry. And picking on the physically or military weak has been the predominant theme for the most angriest and hateful of people and societies in history. Political despots and bullies come to mind. For those with less access to political and social power, internet anonymity becomes their playground to enact feelings in ways they normally would not. And "carebears" (high sec dwellers) are considered the physically and militarily weak and so, become their target of choice.

But as despicable as some of these feelings are (such as hate), it is better they act socially rotten and inept in a game than to project these feelings of inadequacies outside a forum and face-to-face, as the consequences can be much more dire. The lesser of two evils, I suppose.


I don't know about you but when I play online games I expect people to be socially inept by default.

People are already complete douches in real life. Anyone who expects people to behave otherwise in an online setting with near anonymity and especially in a game like EVE which tends to reward collective douchebaggery, is severely deluded.

I'm not saying you can't be a Dudly Do-Right if that's how you want to play but you shouldn't expect everyone else to be and act like you're socially superior to them, as if your online persona means you're the kind of person that would run into burning buildings in real life to save babies and a ganker's online persona means they're the kind of people that would throw the babies into the fire.
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#85 - 2011-12-17 00:57:17 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
A lot of these kiddies are angry. And picking on the physically or military weak has been the predominant theme for the most angriest and hateful of people and societies in history. Political despots and bullies come to mind. For those with less access to political and social power, internet anonymity becomes their playground to enact feelings in ways they normally would not. And "carebears" (high sec dwellers) are considered the physically and militarily weak and so, become their target of choice.

But as despicable as some of these feelings are (such as hate), it is better they act socially rotten and inept in a game than to project these feelings of inadequacies outside a forum and face-to-face, as the consequences can be much more dire. The lesser of two evils, I suppose.
thisiswhatcarebearsactuallybelieve.jpg

You bet I do. You know why? Because there are people like you and a few (very vocal) others that prove your hate for carebears every day. All it takes is a history post search to get the picture.

See, there are people that don't particularly like the "carebear" play style while at the same time not hating on it. These people could really and genuinely care less. But you are not one of these people. You don't like the carebear play style, can't understand why people choose to play differently from you, and hate on them for that. You insult them and place them beneath your "superior" style. I believe you equated them with "watching trees" in real life just a couple of days ago. And I'm almost certain you prefer to see them leave your game.

And you know what? That's fine. I expect people like you to hate, demean, and insult "carebears". But at least have the decency (I know... fat chance) to come clean about it. Stop pretending like carebearism doesn't bother you while driving you insane.

That's all.

Successfully doinitwrong™ since 2006.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#86 - 2011-12-17 01:25:13 UTC
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
You bet I do. You know why? Because there are people like you and a few (very vocal) others that prove your hate for carebears every day. All it takes is a history post search to get the picture.
What has this got to do with your post though? I never denied that I and others dislike certain people who play this game, because that was not your accusation. You stated that we are all angry, hateful people who are using the game as a conveneient outlet, and carebears as convenient, arbitrarily chosen targets. But when pushed on it, the best you can do is "I know there are people you don't like"? Yeah, me and everyone else in the world.

MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
See, there are people that don't particularly like the "carebear" play style while at the same time not hating on it.
I don't hate the playstyle. I consider the extreme end of it a stupid waste of your €15 a month, but each to his own.

MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
These people could really and genuinely care less. But you are not one of these people. You don't like the carebear play style, can't understand why people choose to play differently from you, and hate on them for that.
Again you you provide assertions about what is going on in my head, but nothing more. All you have to go on is that there are people I dislike, and you end up in this fantasy land. Again, thisiswhatcarebearsactuallybelieve.jpg.

MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
You insult them and place them beneath your "superior" style. I believe you equated them with "watching trees" in real life just a couple of days ago. And I'm almost certain you prefer to see them leave your game.
Yep, watching trees, or any other example of taking something with endless possibilites and doing as little as possible with it. And merely ceasing to have an effect on my game would be sufficient, leaving is just the most appropriate means.

MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
And you know what? That's fine. I expect people like you to hate, demean, and insult "carebears". But at least have the decency (I know... fat chance) to come clean about it. Stop pretending like carebearism doesn't bother you while driving you insane.
And I expect people you like to failpost endlessly. Sorry, I don't have a profound follow up to that.


Out of curiosity... what exactly is it you think I do in-game?

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Jimi Crackcorn
Directed Evolution Corp
#87 - 2011-12-17 02:31:24 UTC
TravisWB wrote:
Gee, this game seems to be seriously infected with people that actually HATE the majority of EVE players, namely the hisec dwellers.

I have lately been reading in EVE forums some of the most hateful, RACIST and downright politically tyrannical drivel I have ever seen anywhere.

Something is wrong with this game and CCP needs to fix it.

Straight



Blame 4chan. This game is infested by a bunch of dumbass kids that have forgotten what real life is.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#88 - 2011-12-17 02:54:25 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:
It's just a class battle thing, low and null sec dwellers like to see themselves as the poor and down-trodden while high sec people live a life of indulgence and luxury.
I believe the word is Deluded.


Yeah. I have seen what Incursion fleets make and I am not impressed. You are either not doing things right or just plain lazy in null sec or WH space if you think they are making a lot of ISK. Roll

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#89 - 2011-12-17 03:17:27 UTC
Leads to hating the dark side it does....Blink

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Jojo Jackson
Dead Red Eye
#90 - 2011-12-17 07:48:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Jojo Jackson
Generals4 wrote:
CCP cannot fix people.


But they can fix broken mechanics.

Like
No REAL punishment for criminals (anything ingame is just a bad joke).
Solve the BOT problematic.
Get right of all RMT (ak don't close the eyes ... ingame ally need billing system WTF? -> just one reson: HARDCORE RMT).
Missing balance for items (missing counter moduls, bad joke fitting posibilitys of industrial ships).

And WHY don't they punish an ally, when they call to arms against clearly defensless targets just to **** other player and destroy their fun?!?!

But CCP will notice the consecense early enough when all the industrials are pissed enough and stop paying CCP ....

Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#91 - 2011-12-17 07:54:33 UTC
Because hatin' is an art-form, you know...Cool

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#92 - 2011-12-17 16:04:22 UTC
Matrixskye talking about anonymity when he even has to hide his anonymous in game character with a shiptoasting alt.

I don't consider suicide ganks or pod kills sociopathic, its a game alp about cojflict, risk and loss afterall.

What IS sociopathic are the dim witted idiots that then need to talk **** and think any reply is made of tears.

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Ira Theos
#93 - 2011-12-17 16:40:35 UTC
Fix My Lasers wrote:
TravisWB wrote:
Gee, this game seems to be seriously infected with people that actually HATE the majority of EVE players, namely the hisec dwellers.

I have lately been reading in EVE forums some of the most hateful, RACIST and downright politically tyrannical drivel I have ever seen anywhere.

Something is wrong with this game and CCP needs to fix it.

Straight



Why so serious?

Sometimes I think it's more fun to play these forums then playng the game itself.


QFT!
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#94 - 2011-12-18 21:53:07 UTC
Deltor Griffith wrote:
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
A lot of these kiddies are angry. And picking on the physically or military weak has been the predominant theme for the most angriest and hateful of people and societies in history. Political despots and bullies come to mind. For those with less access to political and social power, internet anonymity becomes their playground to enact feelings in ways they normally would not. And "carebears" (high sec dwellers) are considered the physically and militarily weak and so, become their target of choice.

But as despicable as some of these feelings are (such as hate), it is better they act socially rotten and inept in a game than to project these feelings of inadequacies outside a forum and face-to-face, as the consequences can be much more dire. The lesser of two evils, I suppose.


How long did it take you to be satisfied with your post?


I should ask you the same.

Lyrrashae wrote:
Slade Trillgon wrote:
Stay out of General Discussion, Crime and Punishment, and the Intergalactic Summit forums and you will censor 80+ percent of the drivel you dislike. If you decide to read these three forums then you best be ready for all that you have cited.


Slade



Don't forget CAOD: That forum is just a cesspit of things the profanity-filter won't let me quantify.


I have avoided that forums for 2.5 years, I must have finally forgot it

Post edited.


Slade
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#95 - 2011-12-18 22:08:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Ladie Harlot
Jojo Jackson wrote:

But they can fix broken mechanics.

Like
No REAL punishment for criminals (anything ingame is just a bad joke).

Are you hoping that when there is a suicide gank that the ganker gets arrested irl or something?

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
saltrock0000
State War Academy
Caldari State
#96 - 2011-12-18 22:16:56 UTC
U Mad? They Mad? I Mad???


Yes we are mean, unforgiving and quick to judge... But..... Dont you love us ♥

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Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#97 - 2011-12-19 01:01:54 UTC
I use to hate too, then i took an arrow to the Knee now i seldom log on at all Blink

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