Science & Industry

Hello. I want to throw up a medium Caldari Tower in high sec(0.5 or 0.6). Do you guys know about a nice setup and give me tips for a good start?

I was thinking about Research Lab, Design Lab, Corporation Hangar Array, Medium Ship Assembly Array, Ammunition Assembly Array.

Defense: 3x EW ECM Ion, 3x EW ECM Phased, 3x EW ECM White Noise. 2x EW Web, 2x EW Scram, 2x Hardener Photon, 1x Hardener Explosion.

No guns.. only resistance and jammers. The web/scram useless I guess?

Any thoughts are well appreciated.

I don't think so.

So why put one up?

As for defenses, in highsec you get 24 hours notice. If you log on every day, anchor the defenses and leave them offline. Or don't anchor any and plan to pull the tower down in the case of a wardec. Up to you.

I have decided to research few bpo's in my tower. Will cover the fuel cost easily (according to my calculations).

I've seen many towers in high-sec with no defense at all. Maybe that's the best option for me.. If I get wardec'd Ill cancel everything and leave the tower alone, really don't care about loosing few hundred mil If I can save the bpo's.

I was under the impression that POS's also provided 25% faster manufacturing? Is that wrong?

It is pointless using a medium POS in high sec space. A small POS will still let you anchor all the modules you need as long as you remember to off line the ones you are not using. When your production rate increases and the value of your jobs becomes too much to lose by pulling down your POS in a wardec, then buy a large POS and hang guns and other toys off it.

The 25% production bonus doesn't really come in to effect until you start producing ships, otherwise you are probably turning stuff out fast enough anyway. I try to turn out five production runs a month on ships, without the POS I'd be doing it 25% slower.

Start off with T2 drones. They will give you a foundation on T2 production, yet they sell fast and make profit. After that... Become a industrialist nerd, find your niche and then spend many hours maximising your profit.

It will take bloody ages to get your costs down to the minimum, but you should concentrate on it. That way you can ride the troughs without giving up and missing the peaks.

Have a pos, put it up..... Ooooo
Then, have had a pos, take it down.... Ahhhh
Now relax as that's one less thing to worry about.

I know you get stuff done quicker but..

Typical pos user: Log in, mine ice, reprocess ice, check PI pos fuel component production, go fetch pos fuel component, make fuel, transfer fuel blocks to pos, check/change manufacturing/copying/invention etc etc, log off.

Typical none pos user: Log in, check/change manufacturing/copying/invention etc etc, log off.

Ignore the wardec mantra, I've run POSs under three different characters for nearly 5 years and known many other that did as well. I was affiliated with a high sec coalition (yes, they exist) of high sec industrialists for three years that ran one man POS corps that mined together. NONE of us were ever decced. If you have to take it down in a war dec, so be it. But it is largely a myth, high sec POS warfare REALLY sux if you're an attacker because of the limited ability to bring DPS. I'm pretty confident that 99% of all high sec POS bashes are against abandon sticks floating unattended for the space, not genuine warfare.

Or...

Set up POS. Accept that it is going to cost you 100 mil a month to fuel it and ensure that your profits are there to cover the expense. When you get good at making things, 100 million is pennies anyway and you don't need or want to mine.

I'ma follow up on the just don't use the POS mantra...

I'm also going to follow up on the HS POS's aren't immune to war dec's or bashes. Being a for-profit HS POS basher myself. (though its been a while since i recon'd another set of targets after my last big hit)

No amount of jams/guns makes a POS "safe" anymore....with the advent of "bastion."

Offline towers with stuff anchored on the are also a new favorite target for the gankers like CODE, which this new 'hyperdunk' infinite gank method...(a GM did say i could post on the topic, ISD, ask CiD, he actually told me to...)

That said, i personally occasionally run my own POS...but only for a limited time for very specific time sensitive needs. However, as someone who used to do a TONNE of industry before this past summer, i ended up doing very little because the costs are much higher now, and most markets are over saturated because of the crazy reduced build times of nearly everything.

TLDR; HS POS's aren't much worth it with the new industry meta....but if you really want one, be aware, it can, and likely will catch someone's fancy...