EVE New Citizens Q&A

You will need to change your mindset as to what consititues an MMO my friend. Translation from those other games won't be meaningful towards EVE.

How you use your ships is not a question that we can answer for you, until you first decide what it is that YOU want to do in EVE.

Welcome to the sandbox.

WoW, AoC, ESO are "themepark MMO's" - there is a progression of quests that takes you from low level to max level, and at max level you then get tiered raids and ranked PVP.

EVE Online is a "sandbox MMO" - the developers have made the box of sand, a pail, and a small shovel, and you can build whatever castles you want with the tools you have.

So basically, the ships are the tools; there is a progression from frigate to battleship and then bigger ships (capital ships), but you don't have to go all the way. Each ship is customizable with weapons, armor, shields, jamming equipment, and other gear, and there's a progression from Tech 1 gear to Tech 2 (better) gear, too. But, again, you don't have to go all the way. You can stop when the collection of ships that you have are sufficient for whatever you're trying to do.

The game has MANY skills to train. In WoW, for example, you had a class like "warrior" and it had a bunch of trainable skills, the attacks that a warrior could do. This game's skills are not organized like that; in this game the skills unlock access to gear or ships, and give you little bonuses, 5% here, 10% there, that all add up to double or triple the damage or whatever. There are no limitations, and most pilots find themselves training a dozen or so ship skills, along with over 100 support and weaponry skills so that they can put good gear in those ships, and so that the ships get those double/triple stacked bonuses.

There's an ISIS button in game that shows you the lines of ships that you can pursue. As you can see each race has equivalent categories: frigates, cruisers, transports, etc., but from race to race they use different weapons and tactics. You probably want to start by focusing on one race, whichever, and then maybe add a second race if you feel like you need different tactics.

Most people do missions (for a taste of combat, and mostly for making some money), but you have to use the "agent finder" tool to find an NPC entity to do missions for, because you get standings and LP points that you can use to buy rare gear from the LP store for that NPC corporation/entity. Others do PVP exclusively (although PVP is usually an expense, you put money into your ship and gear and you get fun out of it). Some do trading - the market system is pretty complex, exploration (finding combat sites with probes), manufacturing (industry is complicated, and hard because so many veterans are competing with you).

But, in general, either invent your own fun by finding something to do and enjoying it, or (the better option), find a decent player corporation (guild) and join them, let their officers organize events for you that you can enjoy. There are a few school-like player corporations, for example EVE University or Red vs. Blue, that are set up to train newbies in the basics of the game, PVP, etc., that you can join without much hassle, and they'll try to help you out and show you the game. Once you have an idea of what you want to do, you can then join different player corps., that are specialized in the area of the game that you want to play.

Overall, though, this is a methodical and complex game, and the biggest difference between it and WoW etc. is that there are no levels, there is no "end game", and there is no line of quests to guide you along a path of progression. In this game, you figure out what activities you enjoy, and then go and do them, training whatever skills and ships are required as tools to make you enjoy those activities more and more.

Whichever ship you're in becomes your class.

If you right-click the mining ship from your ships list and make it active, then you're a miner. Put some mining lasers on that ship (however many it can fit in its high slots), some shields and a survey scanner for asteroids in the med slots, and some cargo expanders in the low slots (you have to buy these from the Market and also buy and train the skills that unlock them). Then you undock, go to an asteroid belt, and you mine some asteroids. Bring the ore back to the station and you can refine and sell it for profit on the market.

If you get into the Executioner ship, that is a fast attack scout, so you're looking for combat. PVE combat, you probably need to find a Level 1 agent that will give you combat missions. Open the Agent Finder tool and search for a NPC corporation like Amarr Navy, see if they have a nearby Level 1 Agent. Fit your Executioner ship with some small pulse lasers, 1 MN afterburner for speed, small armor repairer and energized adaptive nano membrane as defenses, and go shoot the pirates that the Agent sends you to. Collect the loot and sell it for profit. PVP combat is harder to do in the Executioner, and also you can't just attack everyone in High Security space because the police will get you, so it's better if you join a PVP corp for PVP combat.

The Rookie ship is basically just a backup if you lose all your ships; you typically want to use better ships than the Rookie ship.

So that's basically the game in a nutshell.

The Amarr Empire (race) has other combat ships besides the Executioner, they have transport ships (for your loot), cruisers, battlecruisers, battleships, etc. They have scouts, covert ops, recons, interdictors, and so on. You need money to buy these ships, and you need to buy and train skills for them. It's like chess, where the pieces you have are the ships you're trained for, and the match is whatever duel, war, piracy, or situation you get yourself into.

Wait.

Whut



That is the most useless module you can fit to a mining ship.

YOu do know that all mining vessels in EVE have an Ore Hold.
You do also know that cargo expanders don't increase special cargoholds (like the Ore Hold).


Q.E.D Cargo Expanders (next to warp core stabs) the most useless module you can fit on a mining ship.

Better fit for a Damage control and some other utility module (bulkheads / shield recharge / nano).


Rest...best advice I've ever seen.

I actually kind of like the pace :P Allows me to catch up on my Planet of the Apes ^__^

Not the response you were expecting? Is that why i felt some passive-aggressive posts uptop? xD

That's because of how the typical "WoW player" reacts to EVE.

So from years and years of "Been there, done that" we just expect that if we see "I played WoW" that it's yet another of those type of players.

These folks are mistaken there is a direct translation from Wow to Eve. (Note that I'm not sure this is good mindset to come to Eve with.)

Quests = PVE missions (try out the Blood Stained Stars arc)
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Missions
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/The_Blood-Stained_Stars

Mid/High game PVE = Incursions and Wormholes
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Incursions
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Wormholes

Crafting = Mining, manufacturing, invention
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Mining
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Planetary_Interaction
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Invention
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Mining


Note that the above most concentrates on PVE aspects of Eve that map to Wow, which many will argue is the less fun part of Eve.

I generally tell people to look at the following:

- Eve Uni (this corp will help you learn to play Eve and what's out there)
- Red Vs Blue (fun mindless PVP)
- Faction warfare (Good ISK and occasional interesting PVP
- Brave Newbies (maybe Freeport??)
- Exploration (see Eve Uni page or wingspan youtube)

Or...

You can just start by blowing people up that did not want to get blown up.

This is the only thing I can add to this thread without going into a VERY long winded post about everything I know:

"How did you Veterans start?"