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God has destroyed the Jove. How just is our God!
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Odelya d'Hanguest
Order of St. Severian
#61 - 2014-12-12 13:07:57 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Andreus, I hear what you're saying, but I have to ask what you think this discussion will achieve? Samira is a believer, she has Faith in God and she isn't going to abandon that faith because you pick holes in a metaphor she used to describe the concept of Free Will in Humans as it applies to what she sees as God's Plan..

Does being a believer entail being immune to harsh criticism? Mr Ixiris has picked up her metaphor and expanded it. The deepest theosophic and theological insights have been achieved by expanding and questioning metaphors that try to entangle our incomplete attempts to grasp His nature and His eternal wisdom and all-encompassing knowledge.

It is the end of true faith to refuse dialogue, both inner and outer. Spiritual enlightenment sometimes takes generations to occur. And Samira is far from this. Her journey has just started.

Regards
Odelya, Begum etc. etc. etc.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#62 - 2014-12-12 15:17:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
Ashlar Vellum wrote:
Samira Kernher wrote:

While there were reports of Jovian support of Matari insurgents prior to the Great Rebellion, those would hardly be the reason for our invasion. I have said before, and I will say again, we are not a passive nation that must invent flimsy justifications or claims of "simply defending ourselves" for war. We did not invade because the Jove may have been involved with the murder of a few priests or the destruction of the Impervious or anything else like that. They might have been factors encouraging it (among many others) but they were hardly the main reason for the attack.

The Amarr-Jove War started because it is our duty to Reclaim the universe under God. We sought to conquer the Jove Empire, not to avenge some comparatively minor slight. We failed in that, because we allowed our pride to blind us and traitors to lead us, and this is something we can feel only great shame for as we have failed both God and the Jovian people.

"few" and "minor slight", I see.
Apostle Taj Rukon was one of those "few" and as you put it yourself "minor slights", lieutenant.


The key word, sir, was "comparatively".

I do not deny that the murders were a factor, though most evidence points to the Federation and not the Jove Empire and if the murders were the reason then our fleets should have been turned on the Gallente and not the Jove. But the murders weren't the primary reason for war. We didn't invade the Jove because of the murders. We invaded them because we have an imperative from God to Reclaim His creations and bring this universe back to Him. We are all minor next to that holy directive.

It was a war of conquest, not defense.
Jukko Riis
Doomheim
#63 - 2014-12-12 16:56:27 UTC
Speaking of murders...

Anyone notice that the murders and counter-atrocities that everyone was so wrapped up in last week have faded from the news and collective memory? Nice little distraction there, wasn't it?

Not pointing fingers mind, but the Sisters sure benefited from that short attention span of ours.

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