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Dev Blog - A new look for EVE’s UI – feedback needed!

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Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#641 - 2014-12-12 06:41:16 UTC
Nolan Kotulan wrote:


Halcyon Ember wrote:
Bearing in mind what I said previously about window interaction causing the game to freeze up briefly and fps being the most obvious visual indicator of this, below is the fps data from me completing a relic site

FPS Data

This is unacceptable

This doesn't mean anything until we know your machine specs, do you know?
And even if we knew them...

Seriously did you even look at the numbers?
To achieve 60 fps to begin with you need a pretty high end machine

60 fps to 11 fps, in a few seconds. Regardless of the machines specs - That is too extreme.

My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Galmas
United System's Commonwealth
#642 - 2014-12-12 08:10:54 UTC
Sizeof Void wrote:
The fade up/down effect on windows and backgrounds when changing window focus, selecting items from a list, and when popup windows open/close, is VERY annoying - particularly when doing anything with market order updates or delivering corp items to members or searching through the corp assets deliveries, startion by station. The display is continually fading up, down, up, down, up, down, etc. This sort of nonsense quickly causes eye fatigue, and probably headaches for some people.

Please disable this behavior. Or, at least, give us the option to turn it off.



Especially when somethings needs to happen quickly, like changing fits during combat or the like it is not very helpful to have all this activity happen in the coloring of the UI.
Vad Olacar
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#643 - 2014-12-12 08:59:46 UTC
Today I've got time for login EvE 1st time since update released. Shocked My impressions about this GUI - "Blood from the eyes"
Market operation with few windows too hard. Eyes have been tired after few minutes. Opacity of windows dont work correct. Transparent and non transparent windiws now haas minimal differenece.
Neocom now is sheet. For operation needs to reed all icons seaching what do you want. For new users here is not much difference, but for long-time players this is quite bad.

So I vote for 2 options: oportunity to run old GUI or oportunity for full customising of every icon, every window, color neocom, buttons etc...
Remer Kraft
R Trast
#644 - 2014-12-12 13:26:12 UTC

It seems to me that it would be wrong to change the interface so it may, in some cases, affect the health of the players. In this case, damage eyesight.
Mara Kell
Herrscher der Zeit
Pandemic Horde
#645 - 2014-12-12 14:18:21 UTC
Im starting to wonder if maybe this thread should be renamed in "feedback needed! but we dont care about it at all"

Seriously dear Devs, i cannot play the game currently. Im a trader and i cannot use the market/wallet windows for more then a few minutes without getting burning eyes and a weird feeling in my head. I dont expect you to fix this in an instant, but how about a short heads up that you acutally care not only about our Euros and Dollars, but also about if we can actually play the game and have fun by doing so.

I hope you read this at all, and if so, please let us know that you are on this. Christmas vacations are coming and i would be really really disappointed to not being able to play eve over those.
Wulfy Johnson
NorCorp Security
#646 - 2014-12-12 14:32:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Wulfy Johnson
Thank you for adding different skins for the ui. Nebula was the most easy for the eye for me dough, as the rest just got blury and hard to differentiate lines from content in.

Please make more with clear lines and more shiney icons.

Would like to see something in firey yellow to orange with red ish lines and some silver touch if possible..

Blue is to old and used up;)
Tryaz
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#647 - 2014-12-12 16:46:36 UTC
I should have posted sooner to say how much I'm enjoying the new UI! I'm particularly enjoying the active theme matching.

Despite the tears in this thread I have actually seen an increase in functionality for my UI. The selected item window is particularly brilliant, the way that buttons light up makes it really easy to read at a glance and it's giving me information like when I'm within targeting range SOo much faster than the old UI used to (because it's so easily readable now).

Can confirm new monochrome icons are faster in use than old.

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TOK3R
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#648 - 2014-12-12 18:22:59 UTC
I find the new ui to not only look worse, but cause eye fatigue when doing tasks like the market. Making the UI worse, for the sake of something new seems completely misguided to me.

How about the devs make some real changes to game play and not just tinker with stuff like this and make things even worse.
Bernard Dupont
Les mitraillettes
#649 - 2014-12-12 18:40:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Bernard Dupont
so bad...

Icons and colors are absolutly horoble. The new interface is really not userfriendly and archaic (comes from stone age !).
The right panel in station is horoble too.
Otherwise, I ve got a sort of glitter on my chat windows when i change camera angle...

This upgrade is a big joke or a lack of taste.

Why don't you get the possiblity to keep old interface or icones ? Why players are not available to choose is own colors ?
Laxen
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#650 - 2014-12-12 22:33:15 UTC
Hello!

I do not understand why you changed the icons of the game.
Or if you want to do it and why you have not left the old ones.
What you did not create dynamic game worse aggravate it.

Not satisfied at all of what you did. Oops

Regards,
Laxen
Laxen
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#651 - 2014-12-12 22:55:44 UTC
Bernard Dupont wrote:
so bad...

Icons and colors are absolutly horoble. The new interface is really not userfriendly and archaic (comes from stone age !).
The right panel in station is horoble too.
Otherwise, I ve got a sort of glitter on my chat windows when i change camera angle...

This upgrade is a big joke or a lack of taste.

Why don't you get the possiblity to keep old interface or icones ? Why players are not available to choose is own colors ?



I totally agree with everything you say.

If you still want to make such changes, why not create an opportunity to vote before these changes?

You did the same interface Captain's Quarters.
Then I had to protest in Jita, to take us seriously.

You have no respect for us.
Pol69
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#652 - 2014-12-13 15:22:44 UTC
All nicknames, inscriptions in chats very bright and contrast. From them eyes start hurting. No current settings help. Give the chance to adjust brightness of fonts.
Med Vezhut
Cerberus-Horizon
#653 - 2014-12-13 21:24:33 UTC
Totally unsatisfied.
Extremely bright and contrast white fonts.
If this will not be changed - i can't play eve physically. Please add option to switch to old UI.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#654 - 2014-12-13 21:32:09 UTC
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Terhiss
United Mining and Hauling Inc
The Initiative.
#655 - 2014-12-13 21:49:10 UTC
Hello,

the UI is the only thing I'm not particularly impressed with that came with this great Patch.

Personally I find the new colors and shades to be too bland and without the needed constrast and color depth, which made the overall User Interface less Eye-friendly especially when in space.

I prefered the previous NeoCom as the icons gave a much greater visibility to the Bar and certainly much easier to individuate and navigate through the Neocom Menu compared to the new one.

The shape and shades of the new ingame windows also dont seem ideal to me. I personally have unchecked the Blur and Transparency options for they created a sort of Lens effect that tended to bother my eyes a bit.

This is my personal input, thanks none the less for a great experience that's becoming greater with every patch.

Keep up the nice work guys :)
John Lawyer
Doomheim
#656 - 2014-12-13 22:35:02 UTC
Some feedback as for NeoCom and station icons.

I noticed that I hardly can identify them by my peripherial sight (tried for a couple of days playing since patch publication).

Everytime I want to find desired function I must concentrate my sight on icon's monochrome form, spending valuble sensoric efforts that can be spent on gameplay thus greatly reducing my overall in-game experience.

But this was not a problem with colour coded icons!

So, +1 for giving a colour for icons.
McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#657 - 2014-12-14 06:32:48 UTC  |  Edited by: McChicken Combo HalfMayo
Just adding fuel to the "can't choose my own colors" fire. Please give us back a custom color palette for both colors.

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Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#658 - 2014-12-14 12:01:49 UTC
I'm used to adapt myself to the game changes since 2006 and I'm still trying with the new UI and icons but, unfortunately, each time I log I feel more uncomfortable.

Trade activity is a pain, for real, with the new UI color schemes. I found that overview use is, indeed, improved but all the rest of windows and all icons are very confusing. At first I thought it would be easy to get used to them and I tried really hard... Didn't happen.Oops

If your balls are hurt and bleeding don't sit in a pool full of piranhas (note to myself: don't complain in GD)
Noriko Mai
#659 - 2014-12-14 12:53:13 UTC
The "People & Places" icon and the "Agent Finder" Icon should be swapped. People & Places is 95.2643% of the time used to manage bookmarks, so it should have the old school compass which doesn't make any sense as an icon for the Agen Finder.

And please bring back the Dark Opaque themeAttention

"Meh.." - Albert Einstein
Zyndia Zantara
Jimmy Devil Rocket Science
#660 - 2014-12-14 16:12:58 UTC
I have to say I am also extremely displeased with the new UI, primarily on account of the same contrast issues already expressed by many. The addition of new themes and the auto-switching capability is pretty cool, but when you replace customization with more presets instead of adding more themes to the collection available to customize, you are removing functionality, which is pretty much never a good thing, generally speaking. There can be valid arguments for it where game mechanics are involved, but when it comes to basic control over graphics that have no impact whatsoever on the gameplay of others, it is completely inexcusable.

And I'd also like to repeat that basic graphics controls like brightness, contrast and gamma are essential elements that every game should include. I can set game presets for all my 3d settings, but brightness, contrast and gamma settings are done OS-wide, and getting EVE playable screws up the graphics on literally everything else I do, and I have to change settings manually every time I want to play EVE, which is just unacceptable. I can't think of any other game off the top of my head that lacks these most basic controls.

The net result is that I find myself less and less inclined to log into any of my five paid accounts.