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Bolimbe
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-12-11 20:07:48 UTC
I would like to see race specific bonuses. Like drone based for gallente and maybe speed or shield buffs buff for minmatar etc...

I have wanted to see something like this for years and I think it would help to add a bit more flavor to the game. The buffs shouldn't be so big as to make one race superior to the others.

I am sure there are both pros and cons to this idea.

Maybe there could be slightly modified skill bonuses. Maybe a 1% increase per skill level of propulsion skill for minnies or a control range buff for the drone skill for gallente. Perhaps a skill training modifier related to specific skills for each race.

Those are just a few of the ways that this could be done. I am sure there are plenty more as well.

Fly safe fellow capsuleers!
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#2 - 2014-12-11 20:11:21 UTC
The racial bonuses are in the racial ships.

'nuff said

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#3 - 2014-12-11 20:11:52 UTC
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#4 - 2014-12-11 20:12:02 UTC
They have these.. theyre just attached to the ship hulls vs the players.


If it wasn't that way, people would only roll one type of player.. again..

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-12-11 20:12:13 UTC
Why you gotta bring race into this?
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Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-12-11 20:13:17 UTC
CCP moved away from a racial based system in 2009? as they felt it too limiting to have decisions you make when in your first character selection limiting the player style you might want to utilise down the track.
Bolimbe
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-12-11 20:33:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Bolimbe
Good arguments. I agree that this could unbalance the game or cause grief to those who wished they rolled another race due to bonus type.

Then perhaps a skill training time buff to specific skills in the game for each race would be more appropriate. If gallente learned drone skills more quickly and caldari learned missile skills more quickly etc.. Those type of buffs would be helpful and separate the races an bit while limiting the effect of the racial buff on actual gameplay.

Sorry for posting in the wrong forum. I don't really post here but I just had to get this idea out there.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#8 - 2014-12-11 20:52:09 UTC
Amarr: New /dance moves.

Caldari: Station spinning count 10x multiplier.

Gallente: Immunity to all negative effects of drinking excessive amounts of Quafe, or eating snails.

Minmatar: Discounted duct tape purchases..
Sista Slade
Nano-Tech Experiments
#9 - 2014-12-11 20:54:24 UTC
Ned Thomas wrote:
Why you gotta bring race into this?


OMG! Someone call Ripard Teg!
Kalishka Ashkulf
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-12-11 22:25:56 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:

Minmatar: Discounted duct tape purchases..


I approve of this *binds her guns to her hull with that infamous silver ribbon* now go away, I'm busy! P

Why, thank you, Thing!
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#11 - 2014-12-11 22:41:45 UTC
Bolimbe wrote:
Good arguments. I agree that this could unbalance the game or cause grief to those who wished they rolled another race due to bonus type.

Then perhaps a skill training time buff to specific skills in the game for each race would be more appropriate. If gallente learned drone skills more quickly and caldari learned missile skills more quickly etc.. Those type of buffs would be helpful and separate the races an bit while limiting the effect of the racial buff on actual gameplay.

Sorry for posting in the wrong forum. I don't really post here but I just had to get this idea out there.


They had this for years.

Then they removed it, because it resulted in everyone rolling a few specific races due to having better training modifiers (namely Achura).

It's better the way it is now, because you can pick anything you want and not feel gimped. As others have said, the racial bonuses are attached to the ships instead of the players. Fly only your race's ships, and you'll have your race's buffs.
Miomeifeng Alduin
Lithonauts Inc.
#12 - 2014-12-11 22:47:40 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Amarr: New /dance moves.

Caldari: Station spinning count 10x multiplier.

Gallente: Immunity to all negative effects of drinking excessive amounts of Quafe, or eating snails.

Minmatar: Discounted duct tape purchases..


While i would love the cheaper duct tape, i fear it'd be very OP. The duct tape prices are the only thing holding us back ;)
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2014-12-11 22:58:53 UTC
Bolimbe wrote:
I would like to see race specific bonuses. Like drone based for gallente and maybe speed or shield buffs buff for minmatar etc...

I have wanted to see something like this for years and I think it would help to add a bit more flavor to the game. The buffs shouldn't be so big as to make one race superior to the others.

I am sure there are both pros and cons to this idea.

Maybe there could be slightly modified skill bonuses. Maybe a 1% increase per skill level of propulsion skill for minnies or a control range buff for the drone skill for gallente. Perhaps a skill training modifier related to specific skills for each race.

Those are just a few of the ways that this could be done. I am sure there are plenty more as well.

Fly safe fellow capsuleers!

lil' racist their mate, saying the inherently darker race is so racially inclined to move faster than others that they defy the laws of physics by making the ships they sit in magically move faster aswell?


also, removed for a reason, because then there is no reason to ever fly a caldari ship as say, amarr, because you will ALWAYS lose to a caldari flyign caldari.


and on a (yes shoot me) real life comparison (GASP), I shoot an AK-47 in lets say a competition against a russian, hes never held a gun before, and I have used the AK-47 for years, what your saying is he should automatically be just as good if not better than me simply because hes russian and picked up a russian gun

that doesnt make sense.
Vapor Ventrillian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-12-11 23:00:33 UTC
Yall need Raptor Jebus!!

also gallente should be more attractive as I am oneCool

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C C P
C C P Alliance
#15 - 2014-12-18 14:00:01 UTC
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Bolimbe
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2014-12-19 21:33:38 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Bolimbe wrote:
I would like to see race specific bonuses. Like drone based for gallente and maybe speed or shield buffs buff for minmatar etc...

I have wanted to see something like this for years and I think it would help to add a bit more flavor to the game. The buffs shouldn't be so big as to make one race superior to the others.

I am sure there are both pros and cons to this idea.

Maybe there could be slightly modified skill bonuses. Maybe a 1% increase per skill level of propulsion skill for minnies or a control range buff for the drone skill for gallente. Perhaps a skill training modifier related to specific skills for each race.

Those are just a few of the ways that this could be done. I am sure there are plenty more as well.

Fly safe fellow capsuleers!

lil' racist their mate, saying the inherently darker race is so racially inclined to move faster than others that they defy the laws of physics by making the ships they sit in magically move faster aswell?


also, removed for a reason, because then there is no reason to ever fly a caldari ship as say, amarr, because you will ALWAYS lose to a caldari flyign caldari.


and on a (yes shoot me) real life comparison (GASP), I shoot an AK-47 in lets say a competition against a russian, hes never held a gun before, and I have used the AK-47 for years, what your saying is he should automatically be just as good if not better than me simply because hes russian and picked up a russian gun

that doesnt make sense.



That may not, however, this does. Minmatar brains have evolved in such a way that they interface especially nicely with their ships, particularly, their ships propulsion system...so on and so forth.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#17 - 2014-12-20 06:00:53 UTC
Bolimbe wrote:



That may not, however, this does. Minmatar brains have evolved in such a way that they interface especially nicely with their ships, particularly, their ships propulsion system...so on and so forth.




Evolution is a devil's lie God made as we are and we have always been as we are.Twisted

as for your ideas we had this all it did was limit player freedom and that's not a good thing


BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#18 - 2014-12-20 09:42:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
So lets have this half baked bonus....


why does gallente get drones? I'd want hybrids or tank boosts (perhaps even hull tanking lol...).

The take away....if you resolve the racial purity issue (not happening, x train is the way to go imo) we can then argue what aspect of races is the bonus. You can shove drone bonus where the sun don't shine for example. Not even trolling...I like guns more than drones.

I'd want blasterthron (variants) being shotgun blasts to the face with moar damage. Ir maybe lr rail thron that sucks less. But thats me, I am old school and trained to meet a sage piece of advice I got long ago...

Caldari hybrid for rail work, gallente hybrid for blaster work.

So whose bonus does gallante get, yours or mine? This is what ccp has to decide.