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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#141 - 2014-12-11 18:31:35 UTC
Guize whats pve? And how do i pve???

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Kalishka Ashkulf
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#142 - 2014-12-11 18:42:18 UTC
I still havn't poked my head in Thera. I think I know what I'm doing tonight, shoppiiiing!

Why, thank you, Thing!
Ione Hunt
Storm Solutions
#143 - 2014-12-11 19:45:18 UTC
Welcome to EVE! You aren't safe anywhere Pirate

Especially in 0.0, WH and Thera (no security means...NO SECURITY) you have to take risk and can't expect to PVE "safely". Don't like it? Don't go to those places...
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#144 - 2014-12-11 20:04:18 UTC
It was quite a mayhem in the first day but after that there wasn't happening much, give it few weeks to cool down.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#145 - 2014-12-11 20:11:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

Another "agenda point" of yours.

Where did I make any assertions on the status of the players? First some presumption of NRDS, not the "hurf blurf you should not play alone" track.

Your opinions do not have to be your religion. Did you know that? Or did those military dentists work you over again?


No, I'm just trying to figure out why you think the ability to bubble = death on contact for any and everyone who wants to go in there.

Because it really doesn't.


It does....but only for bad people who have difficulty with a video game Big smile

Thera is prime emergent gameplay territory, the players will decide what it is and isn't. This is why these 'thempark' types will hate it and vilify it as 'wahhhh it's a pvp place' (you know, like the rest of EVE lol). Me, i just set my clone there lol.




Not so much that. Bombable bubble camps are fun.

It's just that when I see bubbles stacked on bubbles I get the same feeling that I get when I go into a house of a hoarder or someone who has not taken out the trash in two years.

I don't log in to feel that way. Though the thought of bombing them is hard to shake (the ones in game I mean). I giggle like Loreena Bobbit in a sausage factory and I take out my SB.



Herzog, that was quite a fishing trip you have here

I find it amusing that the self-proclaimed hisec PvE queen is telling a person that has been using wormholes to operate in 0.0 for years that he knows nothing about operating in a PvP environment, arrogance and stupidity in one easy post. It set its clone there, big deal, I bet it doesn't kill anything?

Kaarous Aldurald, hmmm, so I looked at the KB of the self-proclaimed HTFU of the Eve forums, I do not see a kill by either him or his alliance in Thera of a HIC outside the station, until he does so he has no right to say that you are fail because you cannot kill one, from where I am sitting neither he or his alliance has done so, so much for his statement about having friends to do it.

Kaarous Aldurald, go on head over there and show us the size of your walnuts...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#146 - 2014-12-11 20:15:46 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:


Herzog, that was quite a fishing trip you have here

I find it amusing that the self-proclaimed hisec PvE queen is telling a person that has been using wormholes to operate in 0.0 for years that he knows nothing about operating in a PvP environment, arrogance and stupidity in one easy post. It set its clone there, big deal, I bet it doesn't kill anything?

Kaarous Aldurald, hmmm, so I looked at the KB of the self-proclaimed HTFU of the Eve forums, I do not see a kill by either him or his alliance in Thera of a HIC outside the station, until he does so he has no right to say that you are fail because you cannot kill one, from where I am sitting neither he or his alliance has done so, so much for his statement about having friends to do it.

Kaarous Aldurald, go on head over there and show us the size of your wall nuts...



rofl, from the guy who can't organize 5 people long enough to live in easy to live in npc space. Priceless.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#147 - 2014-12-11 20:20:04 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:


Herzog, that was quite a fishing trip you have here

I find it amusing that the self-proclaimed hisec PvE queen is telling a person that has been using wormholes to operate in 0.0 for years that he knows nothing about operating in a PvP environment, arrogance and stupidity in one easy post. It set its clone there, big deal, I bet it doesn't kill anything?

Kaarous Aldurald, hmmm, so I looked at the KB of the self-proclaimed HTFU of the Eve forums, I do not see a kill by either him or his alliance in Thera of a HIC outside the station, until he does so he has no right to say that you are fail because you cannot kill one, from where I am sitting neither he or his alliance has done so, so much for his statement about having friends to do it.

Kaarous Aldurald, go on head over there and show us the size of your wall nuts...



rofl, from the guy who can't organize 5 people long enough to live in easy to live in npc space. Priceless.


So you think being camped by Burn Eden of NCDOT is easy, again you show your ignorance, keep at it its priceless!

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Bolimbe
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#148 - 2014-12-11 20:21:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Bolimbe
Joseph Penton wrote:
Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area!



Sounds like you don't have much experience outside of high-sec space. Flay an interceptor to mitigate the effectiveness of the bubbles or find a hole and set a safe spot in a location that you can warp in around the bubbles. Maybe fly a cov-ops ship to a location 100Km or 70Km away from the station and scout it before you attempt to dock.

You should probably also get into a null sec or WH corp that trains capsuleers to work in dangerous environments and learn some PvP skills while you are at it.

Maybe you are not made for PvP and should stick to high-sec space and continue your existence as a carebear. I am not a PvP expert by any means but I took the time to think things through. Now I regularly live in low/null or WH space and chill at safe spots with my d-scan up. All it takes is some thought and experience. To learn it you must do it and in the process you will lose some ships but in the end it is worth it.

Even if you don't like PvP you should get out of high sec, you can become an expert at hiding from the big bad gank man while doing missions or exploration. The pay off in ISK may be mitigated by the loss of ships at first but the real reward is the fun and excitement that you receive. The threat of a loss or the rush of a kill can make this game exciting beyond any other game I have played. The only other game that has provided me with an equivalent rush was Doom back in the day. When those demons jumped out I would get a huge adrenalin rush and almost **** myself!


EDIT:I just realized why the OP has a problem with this. To sum it up: There is a new, cool place to go but I can't go there or I will die if I am not careful. I feel that I should be able to enjoy this new content without the risk of death. SadSadSad I should be handed content on a silver platter and ccp should hold my hand and make sure that I don't lose any ships.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#149 - 2014-12-11 20:33:04 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:



rofl, from the guy who can't organize 5 people long enough to live in easy to live in npc space. Priceless.


So you think being camped by Burn Eden of NCDOT is easy, again you show your ignorance, keep at it its priceless!


OMG, ONE CORP out of an alliance with 24 of them camped you and that mad you fail?

Why didn't you say so dude?! That totally justifies your failure to organize some unrealistic utopian space ship game commune that claimed to be all cooperative but that was in reality nothing more than a sad attempt at profiteering and using people for your own gain.

Man, I'm glad you cleared that up, I would have thought you were just a sad narcissist and failure otherwise.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#150 - 2014-12-11 20:51:15 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:



rofl, from the guy who can't organize 5 people long enough to live in easy to live in npc space. Priceless.


So you think being camped by Burn Eden of NCDOT is easy, again you show your ignorance, keep at it its priceless!


OMG, ONE CORP out of an alliance with 24 of them camped you and that mad you fail?

Why didn't you say so dude?! That totally justifies your failure to organize some unrealistic utopian space ship game commune that claimed to be all cooperative but that was in reality nothing more than a sad attempt at profiteering and using people for your own gain.

Man, I'm glad you cleared that up, I would have thought you were just a sad narcissist and failure otherwise.


Well again your ignorance is splendid to behold, it was while NCDOT as a whole were stationed around Stain. And at least I tried to do something instead of act like you who runs around the forums telling everyone how wonderful you are.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Ione Hunt
Storm Solutions
#151 - 2014-12-11 21:11:13 UTC
Bit OT, but funny to see Burn Eden still **** off people Lol

I have fond memories of them from waaaaaay back during Xetic Federation (and later ASCN) times.

You could scream at the noobs, they'd still light up their MWDs trying to make the 150km to those BE Ravens.

Takoma Panala
Doomheim
#152 - 2014-12-11 21:16:48 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:

"No one said they would have guns!".

Another treasured moment to go in the archives, of people that missed the inter-office memo sent out last week about EvE containing pew pew and so forth.

F


What, that Memo did not reach me. EVE contains pew-pew? I thought it was about hauling Amarrian Por... I mean Holy Scriptures through Highsec.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#153 - 2014-12-11 21:44:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaarous Aldurald
Dracvlad wrote:

Kaarous Aldurald, hmmm, so I looked at the KB of the self-proclaimed HTFU of the Eve forums, I do not see a kill by either him or his alliance in Thera of a HIC outside the station, until he does so he has no right to say that you are fail because you cannot kill one, from where I am sitting neither he or his alliance has done so, so much for his statement about having friends to do it.

Kaarous Aldurald, go on head over there and show us the size of your walnuts...


This character's previous corp lived in a wormhole. And furthermore, one does not get many killmails while flying logi. (knock knock CCP, fix that and fix logi)

But as for screwing around in Thera... are you seriously trying to say that unless I go and kill some numbskull in a heavy interdictor, that therefore they must be invincible?

I mean, are you even reading what you type before you hit send? I don't exactly need to have a interdictor killmail on my own personal board to be able to tell you that they are not, in fact, invincible. Or that bubbles are not anywhere near as scary as carebears think they are.

But Herzog keeps talking out of the sides of his mouth about Luke Skywalker or some other nonsense. And I'd like to know exactly what he means. Sarcasm is not wit, however much modern society may have muddled the two.

So quit jacking each other off about how delightfully non conformist you think you are and just say it, one of you two. What's wrong with Thera?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#154 - 2014-12-11 21:51:06 UTC
While proper multidimensional sarcasm really needs actual wit ...
... I really wonder wtf you people are actually argueing about.

I feel like I'm totally out of the loop. I'm not even curious to see Thera,
for some weird reason. I do wonder how it looks like a bit and I also
wonder about how many people are there, but in the end the real question for me is ...

... what do?

Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai

Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!

Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#155 - 2014-12-11 21:53:55 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:

Kaarous Aldurald, hmmm, so I looked at the KB of the self-proclaimed HTFU of the Eve forums, I do not see a kill by either him or his alliance in Thera of a HIC outside the station, until he does so he has no right to say that you are fail because you cannot kill one, from where I am sitting neither he or his alliance has done so, so much for his statement about having friends to do it.

Kaarous Aldurald, go on head over there and show us the size of your walnuts...


This character's previous corp lived in a wormhole. And furthermore, one does not get many killmails while flying logi. (knock knock CCP, fix that and fix logi)

But as for screwing around in Thera... are you seriously trying to say that unless I go and kill some numbskull in a heavy interdictor, that therefore they must be invincible?

I mean, are you even reading what you type before you hit send? I don't exactly need to have a interdictor killmail on my own personal board to be able to tell you that they are not, in fact, invincible. Or that bubbles are not anywhere near as scary as carebears think they are.

But Herzog keeps talking out of the sides of his mouth about Luke Skywalker or some other nonsense. And I'd like to know exactly what he means. Sarcasm is not wit, however much modern society may have muddled the two.

So quit jacking each other off about how delightfully non conformist you think you are and just say it, one of you two. What's wrong with Thera?


This is why you are a bit odd, you suggested to Herzog that as he was unable to kill the HIC's and that he did not have friends then he was fail at Eve, so I point out that neither you or your very good merc alliance have killed a HIC in Thera. So what is it?

As for Thera I will be heading there at some point, but I will wait for things to settle down, maybe I will see Jenn telling everybody in local that they should be doing level 4's in hisec, but what the hell Lol

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#156 - 2014-12-11 21:59:15 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:

This is why you are a bit odd, you suggested to Herzog that as he was unable to kill the HIC's and that he did not have friends then he was fail at Eve, so I point out that neither you or your very good merc alliance have killed a HIC in Thera. So what is it?


This is why you are a bit odd...

You can't read.

I did not say that. Jenn did.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#157 - 2014-12-11 22:01:25 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

Another "agenda point" of yours.

Where did I make any assertions on the status of the players? First some presumption of NRDS, not the "hurf blurf you should not play alone" track.

Your opinions do not have to be your religion. Did you know that? Or did those military dentists work you over again?


No, I'm just trying to figure out why you think the ability to bubble = death on contact for any and everyone who wants to go in there.

Because it really doesn't.


It does....but only for bad people who have difficulty with a video game Big smile

Thera is prime emergent gameplay territory, the players will decide what it is and isn't. This is why these 'thempark' types will hate it and vilify it as 'wahhhh it's a pvp place' (you know, like the rest of EVE lol). Me, i just set my clone there lol.




Not so much that. Bombable bubble camps are fun.

It's just that when I see bubbles stacked on bubbles I get the same feeling that I get when I go into a house of a hoarder or someone who has not taken out the trash in two years.

I don't log in to feel that way. Though the thought of bombing them is hard to shake (the ones in game I mean). I giggle like Loreena Bobbit in a sausage factory and I take out my SB.



Herzog, that was quite a fishing trip you have here

I find it amusing that the self-proclaimed hisec PvE queen is telling a person that has been using wormholes to operate in 0.0 for years that he knows nothing about operating in a PvP environment, arrogance and stupidity in one easy post. It set its clone there, big deal, I bet it doesn't kill anything?

Kaarous Aldurald, hmmm, so I looked at the KB of the self-proclaimed HTFU of the Eve forums, I do not see a kill by either him or his alliance in Thera of a HIC outside the station, until he does so he has no right to say that you are fail because you cannot kill one, from where I am sitting neither he or his alliance has done so, so much for his statement about having friends to do it.

Kaarous Aldurald, go on head over there and show us the size of your walnuts...




LOL don't give Kaarus ideas one goatse is enough in this world.


Yeah I just make the simple point about dictor bubbles and that which can be death camped will be and "the usual suspects" come in with the usual stuff. Though with Kaarus I suspect there is a religious motive involved, or a lack thereof leaving a void that needed to be filled by the Church of HTFU.

Remarkably we have something like Forum PVP by Proxy going on here. I have yet to actually go to Thera - heck I just updated the client this morning using "free" bandwidth I don't normally have and have not yet even played - and the people arguing with me are not having anything to do personally with the matter either. We might as well be arguing new Star Trek versus old.


PVP was getting too expensive for me as I didn't like having clones costing more than my ship. Now that CCP has tossed us bittervets a bone here, more players will be feeling the wrath of my Kestrel. That this change happens with the introduction of Thunderdome.... uh... Thera is probably not mere coincidence.

When I get around to it I'll see how Thera really is.



Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#158 - 2014-12-11 22:24:23 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:

This is why you are a bit odd, you suggested to Herzog that as he was unable to kill the HIC's and that he did not have friends then he was fail at Eve, so I point out that neither you or your very good merc alliance have killed a HIC in Thera. So what is it?


This is why you are a bit odd...

You can't read.

I did not say that. Jenn did.


Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

All that I have concentrated on is the mechanics. And that which can be locked down and death camped will be. You can't anchor bubbles, but dictor bubbles are possible. Even if we see it as some kind of PVP zone, it's going to be a crappy PVP zone when the stations are death camped.

So it's not PVe friendly. That's a given. Unless PVP is "get bubbled and die" it's not going to be PVP so much either. Meaning that, like the Nestor, it's more SoE content for which we have to find a use. And an SoE ship with me flying it is the last thing that system is ever going to see.



I don't see how a few dictor bubbles will stop... Oh, wait. You're looking at this from the assumption that people are solo, aren't you?


Seriously...

Thera looks damn good and I will be heading there when things calm down to have a look, I have an added challenge to kill a HIC bubbling one of the stations, but I will do that in my own good time. Big smileTwistedCool

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Mharius Skjem
Guardians of the Underworld
#159 - 2014-12-11 22:25:47 UTC
Joseph Penton wrote:
Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area!


Working as intended then...

A recovering btter vet,  with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...

Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#160 - 2014-12-11 22:37:11 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:

This is why you are a bit odd, you suggested to Herzog that as he was unable to kill the HIC's and that he did not have friends then he was fail at Eve, so I point out that neither you or your very good merc alliance have killed a HIC in Thera. So what is it?


This is why you are a bit odd...

You can't read.

I did not say that. Jenn did.


Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

All that I have concentrated on is the mechanics. And that which can be locked down and death camped will be. You can't anchor bubbles, but dictor bubbles are possible. Even if we see it as some kind of PVP zone, it's going to be a crappy PVP zone when the stations are death camped.

So it's not PVe friendly. That's a given. Unless PVP is "get bubbled and die" it's not going to be PVP so much either. Meaning that, like the Nestor, it's more SoE content for which we have to find a use. And an SoE ship with me flying it is the last thing that system is ever going to see.



I don't see how a few dictor bubbles will stop... Oh, wait. You're looking at this from the assumption that people are solo, aren't you?


Seriously...

Thera looks damn good and I will be heading there when things calm down to have a look, I have an added challenge to kill a HIC bubbling one of the stations, but I will do that in my own good time. Big smileTwistedCool


So... I fail to see where I said that anyone was "fail at EVE" like you claimed, I was merely trying to figure out what in the Burning Hells Herzog was going on about.

Just go ahead and take back your previous bullshit statement, everyone has seen it already, you aren't wriggling out from under it.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.