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How do you explain EVE to friends

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FaDe-iN
TaXEvaTioN
#121 - 2014-12-10 00:46:07 UTC
Its less of a verbal explanation, and more of a kick to the groin.

"Ya, kind of like that"
Sturmwolke
#122 - 2014-12-10 04:19:38 UTC
I'll tell them :

EVE is sandbox MMO school where you have the opportunity to observe players pull out every tricks they can think of to get ahead.
Whether PvP, PvE or the economy (which is rampant with market manipulations).

It's not a game per se. It's a social experiment.
Learn from it and your perspective on things in the real world will be greatly sharpened, including, but not limited to :

- bullshit detector skills
- scam detector skills
- sock puppeteering detector skills
- propaganda/anti-propaganda skills
- always alert for awoxers
- trust savvy (i.e. limit your damage in betrayal scenario)
- better min-max skills, better efficiency
- IT security savvy
- business savvy
- management savvy
.....

All in all, it's a great school for non-ignoramuses. Lol
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#123 - 2014-12-10 04:39:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Johan Civire
Uhm i`m not going to tell my friends how to play this. I have try in the "normal way" belive me i try. The get so confuse. And the problem is, i know to many things so my info is way to big to tell them.

So what i do or what i have done. Is doing a lan party with internet. Let them come over and install eve, and even i start a new "trail". So i go try to pick all of them the same race so there is no "confusion" where some one is!

There i try to learn the basic. And playing all day long. "missions" just to get the feeling how the warp works ship and combat. This can take a while to get hang of it.

It works because the ask me TONS yes TONS of question. If i need to talk that in english or i need to type all that i think the are kicking my butt and the will never play this game. But know sins i have done this way, the are playing. You can try teamspeak. But to do it for them its easyer then telling or typing.

So this game have to many options, Yes its sandbox i know. But the overwheliming of options is just crazy. I think the need to limit it, so there is not that MASS OPTION for you. Unless the hit a box that say show all options. After the done all tuts the "show option will be auto enabled"

The problem is TEXT nobody whats to read TEXT in game. Aka 2003 yah ok ic why you need to read. But come on people put some money in TALKING.

I know for me its useless sins i know a thing of two in eve so if the going to change ad it or remove this will not effect my game play. But for like my son he wants to play it he know what i`m doing but when he first login he was like uhm dad???? He get a little confuse at his first mission. I think the best way is to make a NOOB ZONE

All trail account go there is a dead space no PK nothing. No high sp players can enter. Also all noobs are there and the can team up easy without traveling because the have no clue how to team up or how to travel. So this will clean up that problem. After the have done all the tut you can get them back in eve "spawn in there own starting race"

This is how i will do. If that was possible. I know bad english but he i want try to help.
Cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#124 - 2014-12-10 06:57:42 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:
Celina Shi wrote:
Im 37 years old, i dont tell my friends that i like to fly internet spaceships..


I'm 43, and most of my friends who would play a computer game at all find EVE kind of interesting!

Aside from explaining it in the context of my work, I've never felt awkward about talking about playing EVE. The way I'd explain it to friends or family is that it's a space-themed computer game with a huge world, shared by thousands of people, that is all about the conflict between self-organized teams of players.

Making clear that the fun of the game is essentially social contact between teammates is something that even the people I know who don't play video games understand.



Is Eve a game?

A game, typically, has a winning end game. Most games I have played my entire life end in some way or another. There is a goal and then when you complete said goal the game is over, or you die and the game is over.

Eve is nothing like a game, in fact I stopped calling it a game and I refer to it as a living work of art. It's more like legos, you build things you can assemble stuff and make your own content. It's a sandbox simulator more then a game. There are game element in Eve and even game like missions you can run, but Eve itself is a space simulator. It's a modern playground, filled with digital sand.

What makes Eve unique is the people you meet across the virtual world who also have a passion for space simulators.

Every day in every way I improve my skills and get better.

S5516B
Doomheim
#125 - 2014-12-11 02:27:18 UTC  |  Edited by: S5516B
Quote:
Is Eve a game?

A game, typically, has a winning end game. Most games I have played my entire life end in some way or another. There is a goal and then when you complete said goal the game is over, or you die and the game is over.

Eve is nothing like a game, in fact I stopped calling it a game and I refer to it as a living work of art. It's more like legos, you build things you can assemble stuff and make your own content. It's a sandbox simulator more then a game. There are game element in Eve and even game like missions you can run, but Eve itself is a space simulator. It's a modern playground, filled with digital sand.

What makes Eve unique is the people you meet across the virtual world who also have a passion for space simulators.


This…

I read this quote to my husband and after multiple failed attempts to explain EVE, he finally gets it.
Still can't get him to play though. I'm the science geek in our relationship :)
Dredd Slider
Doomheim
#126 - 2014-12-11 03:11:52 UTC
Cyndrogen wrote:
CCP Darwin wrote:
Celina Shi wrote:
Im 37 years old, i dont tell my friends that i like to fly internet spaceships..


I'm 43, and most of my friends who would play a computer game at all find EVE kind of interesting!

Aside from explaining it in the context of my work, I've never felt awkward about talking about playing EVE. The way I'd explain it to friends or family is that it's a space-themed computer game with a huge world, shared by thousands of people, that is all about the conflict between self-organized teams of players.

Making clear that the fun of the game is essentially social contact between teammates is something that even the people I know who don't play video games understand.



Is Eve a game?

A game, typically, has a winning end game. Most games I have played my entire life end in some way or another. There is a goal and then when you complete said goal the game is over, or you die and the game is over.

Eve is nothing like a game, in fact I stopped calling it a game and I refer to it as a living work of art. It's more like legos, you build things you can assemble stuff and make your own content. It's a sandbox simulator more then a game. There are game element in Eve and even game like missions you can run, but Eve itself is a space simulator. It's a modern playground, filled with digital sand.

What makes Eve unique is the people you meet across the virtual world who also have a passion for space simulators.




"What makes Eve unique is the people you meet across the virtual world who also have a passion for space simulators."

that's all I ever tell people as to why I play eve.


Belial Darksoul
Darksoul Systems Ltd
#127 - 2014-12-11 03:13:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Belial Darksoul
Well i have never had to deal with this situation because i am blessed with lack of actual RL friends....Roll so yeah if i did i'd say something along the lines of:

* it is the only game [that i am aware of] that is actively promoted to Feth people off, lying, cheating, stealing, all the good things your mother warned you about, it is all here in the all-in-one-space-game.

* you can play dress ups. unfortunately there are no magic hats.......or stuff like that, but there are cybernetic arms and such.

* everything you do affects something or someone else, every action has a consequence, even if you don't realize at the time.

* if you are .....like me......and haven't got an interest in playing group games but like MMO's but don't play well with others [i prefer solo tbh, less mind feths] then you can play solo without much of a disadvantage, this type of playstyle is also promoted.

there are many things to discover, and if there isn't something for them, then i'd mention a list of other cool but unrelated to Eve "games" and what they can do etc.....

but i am blessed with no friends...

just how i like it.
Vyl Vit
#128 - 2014-12-11 08:19:53 UTC
I've been looking at this question (subject line) for a very long time now, giving it little thought, but feeling a tad strange every time I saw it, and I finally decided I'd cypher it out. The thing is, "friend" and "explain to" ... those two in the same sentence strikes me as weird. I'd never have a "friend" who'd require an explanation. I think the two concepts are...contrary to one another. A friend is someone to whom you never have to explain.

Furthermore, none of my friends don't know what EVE Online is. I don't know anyone who doesn't know what EVE is and I really wouldn't want to know anyone who doesn't know. At this day and age it'd be a bit like knowing someone who doesn't know what a wheel is, wouldn't it?

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.

Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#129 - 2014-12-11 08:24:49 UTC
This is easy.

I have no friends, so anyone who approaches me and asks me about it ...
... would just receive a **** you and my middle finger and that's how I explain it.

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Janeway84
Insane's Asylum
#130 - 2014-12-11 14:05:44 UTC
I told my friends about eve, two of them managed to play for a few hours then quit complaining about Ui, controls gameplay even :p

2 years later i managed to get one of them attached to the game for a few weeks but he dropped it when he started his new job.
I havent heard from him since, he is all work no fun these days.. Ugh
Kalishka Ashkulf
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#131 - 2014-12-11 14:45:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Kalishka Ashkulf
How do you explain EVE to friends?

I demonstrate by doing something like this

Why, thank you, Thing!

Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#132 - 2014-12-11 15:14:23 UTC
Its a space based game in which lots of Americans and a few Canadians fly around in interstellar space ships and shoot at one another, and it also has lots of Russians involved in the action as well. Cool
Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#133 - 2014-12-11 15:26:53 UTC
Adela Talvanen wrote:
Its a space based game in which lots of Americans and a few Canadians fly around in interstellar space ships and shoot at one another, and it also has lots of Russians involved in the action as well. Cool

Austria.

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Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!

Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!

Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#134 - 2014-12-11 15:33:28 UTC
Sol Project wrote:
Adela Talvanen wrote:
Its a space based game in which lots of Americans and a few Canadians fly around in interstellar space ships and shoot at one another, and it also has lots of Russians involved in the action as well. Cool

Austria.


Like us British you are in a minority.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#135 - 2014-12-11 18:05:24 UTC
Mario Putzo
#136 - 2014-12-11 19:01:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Mario Putzo
EVE Online is the best game you never have to play.

Huh?

Thats right buddy, EVE is ****, it is boring, it is hard, and unforgiving...except when it isn't.

Huh?

There are hundreds of things to do, yet practically nothing at the same time...its great. You can sit in station for 8 hours and experience just as much as you would if you undock.

I don't get it?

Now you don't even need to log in to play, fill the skill queue and read about the game...the real part of the game.

What do you mean?

Simple. EVE isn't a Game, it is a community. The people you play with are the game, and you can experience the game with or with out playing it, some of the most fun Ive had in EVE was sitting on TS3 driving home from work.

So should I play it?

My friend....you don't play EVE...EVE plays you.
Xalanax
Miskatonic Mercantile
#137 - 2014-12-11 19:16:48 UTC
Eve is a sunset.

A technically explainable thing that while shared by many will be a unique experience to the individual.
Tiberius Mathusia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#138 - 2014-12-11 20:53:05 UTC
Badly. I normally give up and say it's about shiny spaceships and blowing stuff up before they get bored and stop listening.
Takoma Panala
Doomheim
#139 - 2014-12-11 21:44:39 UTC
Telling? No thanks, i want to keep my friends...
Maxwell Nadires
Nyx Enterprise Inc.
Defensive Order Of Mayhem
#140 - 2014-12-12 03:34:51 UTC
Playing EVE online is a lot like living in Hollywood, having it all, then deciding you don't like living with the stars and moving to East L.A. where the police don't even go unless they're doing a SWAT raid.