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Dev Blog - A new look for EVE’s UI – feedback needed!

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Rastafarian God
#621 - 2014-12-10 22:19:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Rastafarian God
When you set the UI theme to match active ship, the UI chooses the wrong theme when in ORE ships. Instead of using the Yellow and Grey ORE theme, it uses the Dark Matter theme. This might be a small thing, but I rather enjoy having an overview that matches the ships automatically and noticed this right away.

As for the new icons, I'm having a hell of a time memorizing them. Its severely hindering the game some times. But i'll adapt with time. As for the person that said the buttons where gone in the selected item box, they are still there darkened out like they where before. They are much harder to see then before however and you might need to adjust some settings.
Daisy Warkorr
Area 51 Assassins
#622 - 2014-12-10 22:45:26 UTC
Several things worth mention here:-

The new colour schemes are arbitrary and look like they were designed by a colour-blind kid with ADHD. They are not as customiseable and the old schemes were better and easier on the eyes.

The old sidebar/Neocom graphics were much better than these tired-looking new monochrome icons which look crap in comparison and are not as easily recogniseable.

The new map is great.

Mara Kell
Herrscher der Zeit
Pandemic Horde
#623 - 2014-12-10 23:29:42 UTC
Ok beside the obvious problems with the new UI i have found many many small glitched which do not follow the quality standards we are used to from Eve.

The first thing that struck me was that something is weird with selecting ships, especially when selecting the active ship.

If you look closely you can see that the highlighting box is not centered vertically and has a wrong pixel size. It becomes especially obvious when you compare it to the active ship box.

http://i.imgur.com/7IlzmjN.png
Mara Kell
Herrscher der Zeit
Pandemic Horde
#624 - 2014-12-11 00:33:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Mara Kell
Another couple of small UI glitches can be found for example in the mail window. A UI with so many small glitches may be ok for a new game right out of beta, but as a replacement for a fully working one it just seems a bit sub par Sad

I have highlighted and zoomed these anomalies.

- The 4 bars in the top left are missaligned especially compared to the ones further downwards.

- The highlighting area over "alliance" is expanding over the actual button for one pixel to the right and downwards. This looks weird because it fills the space between the buttons and to the border.

- In the Mailinglist there is a gap in the vertical lines.

- The inner window expands to the right across the actual outer window border.

http://i.imgur.com/7667PRC.png

It may seem like those things i mentioned are not that important but they are actually catching my eye and those of my corpmates too. I hope the UI is still work in progress and will over time catch up to the quality we are used to when playing eve.
Captain Sam Aideron
BiotSavart
#625 - 2014-12-11 02:25:49 UTC
I really have to wonder if the devs are even paying attention to the comments about the UI anymore.....

"You'll get used to it" or "Everyone resists change" is the standard mantra I'm seeing on the help channel and the forums.

We're the customers, remember? Telling us that "You'll get used to it" is a Microsoft response....and it worked so well for Windows 8, right?

The lack of ability to change the UI back to the previous version is a serious enginerring flaw, not a "feature" or "improvement".

You always give the customer that capability...I would have been marched to the door if I delivered products without that.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#626 - 2014-12-11 02:27:23 UTC
the themed colors according to ship falls short by a lot. a better way to give the UI character would be racial interfaces, and faction/pirate interfaces... so unique that it requires some familiarity to use them fluidly. a race like the jove would look completely alien, with odd symbols...

but what we have instead is colored boxes.
Jake Doidge
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#627 - 2014-12-11 04:46:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Jake Doidge
issue resolved
Silivalia
e50
#628 - 2014-12-11 06:10:41 UTC
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Silivalia
e50
#629 - 2014-12-11 06:44:18 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:

but what we have instead is colored boxes.


You are not in trand man! You must think in "FLAT" , like other people who look's TRANDY.
so fancy, so minimalistic, so flat. wow.
Remer Kraft
R Trast
#630 - 2014-12-11 09:28:29 UTC

New color schemes uncomfortable for vision, the eyes start to hurt after 5 minutes of play.

Why removed the option color scheme with a light background?
MadChkalov
SeVeN GMT
#631 - 2014-12-11 13:29:10 UTC
At first, i want to thank CCP, they read feedback, insufficiently, but read, it is good for us. (could be worse)

At second, about new UI bags:

- Watch list: not work select.
- Fleet: when open Squad all members is already selected, it is wrong.
- Overview: Color line for select, it is wrong too, color only for object in space.
- Overview: Please return cells, it is very difficult to find information at line.
- DS: Please return cells, it is very difficult to find information at line.

New UI needs completions and corrections.
Halcyon Ember
Repracor Industries
#632 - 2014-12-11 17:34:36 UTC
Bearing in mind what I said previously about window interaction causing the game to freeze up briefly and fps being the most obvious visual indicator of this, below is the fps data from me completing a relic site

FPS Data

This is unacceptable

Queen of Chocolate

Galmas
United System's Commonwealth
#633 - 2014-12-11 17:49:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Galmas
For me it is a downgrade that i cannot set the window background color anymore. I would love to see that again.

The RGB color selection stuff in general was very nice. I would like to see the option again.

I use to play with pretty low brightness so i need some stronger colors than these themes provide. Not much just a touch. The RGB selection was able to do that perfectly fine.
Tineoidea Asanari
Perkone
Caldari State
#634 - 2014-12-11 17:52:15 UTC
First off, I really like the new UI. Especially the Blood Raider theme matches my characters perfectly Pirate


But there a few things that could/should be tweaked:

1.) Before Rhea, it was pretty simple to tell in which squad you are because of your respective fleet/wing/squad was highlighted in a clear green color. Now it's only a light green shine and only if you are hovering above the regarding squad. In large scale fleets that is a problem.

2.) Change the color of the previous called to something with a better contrast to red while using the Blood Raider theme! And maybe the selecting color while looking at a killmail or fit, as it's really not easy to look at. Also, in the Plasma theme you cant see alot of those things, too.

3.) The neocom is much more transparent than the other windows and doesnt switches color. That needs to be fixed, as of right now it doesnt look fitting.

4.) Please please please get us multicolor Icons! The new style is cool, but give it colors to help distinguish symbols while being in a rush.


That's it for now.
Remer Kraft
R Trast
#635 - 2014-12-11 19:57:35 UTC
After today's update contrast fonts seem to be slightly decreased.
But anyway I beg to return at least one color scheme with a light background.
Font on a dark background leads to eye fatigue and play very uncomfortable.
If I am not mistaken, the previous version was a good option sand color.

Ideal - RGB color selection.
Nolan Kotulan
Nova Tabula Rasa
#636 - 2014-12-11 22:09:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Nolan Kotulan
Rain6637 wrote:
the themed colors according to ship falls short by a lot. a better way to give the UI character would be racial interfaces, and faction/pirate interfaces... so unique that it requires some familiarity to use them fluidly. a race like the jove would look completely alien, with odd symbols...

but what we have instead is colored boxes.

Again? Do you want to play with odd symbols? Really?
Don't they have enough work with one, only one, interface?
Isn't the game already enough complex?
Should they really add different unique interfaces for each race?
What don't we have to read...

Halcyon Ember wrote:
Bearing in mind what I said previously about window interaction causing the game to freeze up briefly and fps being the most obvious visual indicator of this, below is the fps data from me completing a relic site

FPS Data

This is unacceptable

This doesn't mean anything until we know your machine specs, do you know?
And even if we knew them...

Per aspera ad astra

Alexei Tourani
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#637 - 2014-12-11 22:32:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Alexei Tourani
Can you please give us the ability to use the old color scheme that is a lot more toned down then the current one. I have some vision problems that have made the new interface impossible to see. I love eve so much and to see a change like this completely eliminate my ability to play the game is disheartening. I simply cannot see what's going on my screen with the new changes, I have tried removing blur, post processing, changing color schemes and playing with transparency but it isn't working. It hurts my eyes to look at it for longer than a few minutes and my ability to decipher what is actually happening on my overview and other information windows is not possible in any reasonable time. This eliminates my ability to do anything that needs me to recognize what's on my overview and who is in local. Eliminating most of the activities that I played eve for. So I ask the devs to please give us an option to use the previous setup, not because I dislike the new one, not because I hate change but because I can no longer see the game in its current state.

TLDR; I have eye problems and can't see anything in the game with the new UI
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#638 - 2014-12-11 22:46:02 UTC
How do I revert all the changes that happened in the last 6 months and make the UI usable again?
Or do I have to look for a new game now?

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Sizeof Void
Ninja Suicide Squadron
#639 - 2014-12-11 23:33:12 UTC
The fade up/down effect on windows and backgrounds when changing window focus, selecting items from a list, and when popup windows open/close, is VERY annoying - particularly when doing anything with market order updates or delivering corp items to members or searching through the corp assets deliveries, startion by station. The display is continually fading up, down, up, down, up, down, etc. This sort of nonsense quickly causes eye fatigue, and probably headaches for some people.

Please disable this behavior. Or, at least, give us the option to turn it off.
Megumi Takioko
M T Corporation
#640 - 2014-12-12 03:02:05 UTC
The interface is just awful , I as a person with impaired vision difficult to find the icon that is needed at the moment! I can not understand what kind of mockery of visually impaired players? Bring back the old interface as an option or make a new color and volume !