Missions & Complexes

OK so not sure if this is the correct place for this thread, don't want to get any carebears angry!

Anyways, some background: My character is a new 3m SP Caldari. He was born directly into my buddy's PvP corp and doesn't have much PvE experience. I can fly a Raven and have the standings to do Lv4 missions but can't quite run them efficiently(lots of warping out and sometimes there is a BS tank I cannot break). I have been brainstorming ways to fund my PvP addiction. I tried mining for a week and made decent ISK in an Osprey, but without putting SPs into it I won't make as much as I want to, and I really did not enjoy the time I spent shooting rocks. So I have been considering doing some ninja salvage/looting as an income generator until my character can run Lv4s or even incursions.

The Question: How much, in terms of ISK, can be generated from looting/salvaging an average Lv4 mission?

Caveats:
-Keep in mind I will stay local to Caldari space initially
-Not looking for ninja salvage/lootng tactics
-Not looking for a guide to squeezing out the most ISK from a station container full of loot
-Not looking to hear from frustrated carebears
-Assume I will not be taking mission essential items for ransom

I understand there is a lot of variables to this and an exact amount would be impossible to say. Just looking for an estimate. Maybe a High-Low-Mean answer would best describe...

Thanks all!

Thats an outrageous lie!


To answer your questions though: you could train for a drake in less than 2 weeks and make more money running lvl 3's than you will ninja salvaging.

I can see ninja salvaging making a *bit* of money, but to be honest, even with good scanning skills and a t2 scanning frig with sisters probes + scanner, itll take 5-10 mins to populate your bookmarks with missions to go loot, and then swap to whatever your ship of choice is, and you will get to loot some, some might just be ****** missions with like 2 wrecks, if you come up against someone in a noctis or a marauder you wont stand much chance of getting much money out of it and some people like to shoot the stuff.

THOUGH: there is a mission running channel whose name eludes me at the moment where you can offer your services as a salvager and follow some dude in a pimp mission ship round salvaging all the stuff, give him like 10-20% for the trouble. THAT will make you a reasonable amount (until you can fly that drake).

whatever you do it will make you more money than that osprey will mining, try some ninja salvaging while you train a drake if its what you want to do. try 'legit' salvaging for people too though.


to be completely honest, ninja salvaging without the ability to shoot the carebears if they agress you seems rather pointless to me.

I re-read your question.

If you get the scanning down quickly, and get lucky with drops, then I don't see 10m an hour being unreasonable.

factoring the total randomness of drops and your ability to scan plenty of sites down AND your ability to secure the salvage/loot (not get beaten by the bears noctis or whatever), then it could literally be anywhere between 1m/hr and 20m/hr. probably closer to 1m/hr.

before people lol at that number, he wouldn't have to find much more than an arbalest heavy missile launcher to be well on his way.

use a vigil.

Thanks all for the info!

FWIW I can fly a drake and have Lv3 missions available to me. I did Lv3's for about two weeks and stockpiled all of the loot and salvage. Did not keep a great record of it but it almost seemed that I made more on loot and salvage than I did on mission rewards/bounties. That is where the idea came to me of just looting and salvaging as much and quickly as possible.

Anyways, another detail is the fact that my corp is often waging war 20+ jumps away from my hometown. Ideally I would like to be able to jump-clone back when the bad guys are determined to spin their ships for hours.

Well I think I will give it a try next week. I figure a cheap Heron for scanning and a Cormorant for salvaging/looting.

I will keep a record and update here with the returns I get after 1 week!

Join our public channel and you get the skinny on how to make enough ISK to keep your pew pew going. The best ISK you get as a ninja is from ransoms and blingy modules dropped from your hapless victims ships. It's not as as steady of an income stream as say an Incursion or LP-grinding Alt, but it's considerably better than mining income. Those who think there's no ISK in it haven't practiced the trade. Find the good tag missions and dolts who will shoot at you and you can do quite well.

Big tough guy...I say lol

I laugh at you wannabe badasses it really is funny and pathetic. What does that have to do with toughness I love to watch this "I am going to be bad!" whatever sounds like 10 year olds talking about beating up some other kid on the playground.

I don't care what you say means nothing to me I am laughing at you.

Lol why be a badass in game when I can do it in real life? I don't get to steal, ****, pillage, and screw with care bears in real life so I will probably have more fun doing that in game!

stop trolling brah

Wanting to make the most efficient amount of isk without resorting to acts such as ransoming isn't going to help you out. Watered down, it's hard to really make a significant amount of isk when you depend on luck or really know what you're doing. There are too many variables, but that doesn't necessarily mean that a profit won't be made. It's enough for me to say that it isn't worth it unless you are more so doing this for your enjoyment than making prime isk as a lone wolf.

Ransoming isn't exactly effective, either. Plenty of mission critical loot is on the market.

My advice is to hunt down a ninja salvaging corp. There are plenty of trade secrets I'm sure people aren't willing to spill out over the forums.

Don't think I will be anywhere close to that. If I pull in 20m ISK/hr I will be ecstatic.

Will work this for a week soon and update on returns.