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Thera not pve friendly!

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#121 - 2014-12-11 14:20:52 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

Another "agenda point" of yours.

Where did I make any assertions on the status of the players? First some presumption of NRDS, not the "hurf blurf you should not play alone" track.

Your opinions do not have to be your religion. Did you know that? Or did those military dentists work you over again?


No, I'm just trying to figure out why you think the ability to bubble = death on contact for any and everyone who wants to go in there.

Because it really doesn't.


It does....but only for bad people who have difficulty with a video game Big smile

Thera is prime emergent gameplay territory, the players will decide what it is and isn't. This is why these 'thempark' types will hate it and vilify it as 'wahhhh it's a pvp place' (you know, like the rest of EVE lol). Me, i just set my clone there lol.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#122 - 2014-12-11 14:25:15 UTC
Here comes the tinfoil:

Goons diss Thera to get everybody out so they can have it for themselves.

EXPOSED !

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#123 - 2014-12-11 14:26:20 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
the rookie ships from Pend in Thera need to come equipped with civilian probe launchers and probes that are capable of finding highsec exits. Astrometrics I is one of the skills you start EVE with.

If there wasn't a 1 year timer on remote med clones, that would be another way to avoid Thera being a clone trap.

This is a really smart idea! If you ... as it's yours ... make a thread in F&I, I will happily support it.

Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai

Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!

Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!
Square PI
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#124 - 2014-12-11 14:37:51 UTC
It would be enough when there are NPC sold civ. probe Launcher on the stations.
Jean Luc Lemmont
Carebears on Fire
#125 - 2014-12-11 14:40:00 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
I Love Boobies wrote:
In other news... fedos escaped from their holding cells in Jita and are now running rampant throughout the 4-4 station, eating anything and everything, but mostly favoring Tritanium. This will make tritanium prices skyrocket, so according to Jim E. Jones, now is the time to sell your stockpiles before the fedos can devour them.

Now to Dee Dee Packalotte for the weather...

I've got a bottle of whiskey and a new mission. Off to Jita with me for the sweet sweet fedo lovins.
I will save the tritanium with the badtouches!


I am so disturbed by this I don't even know where to begin.

I'm going to go take a shower in acid.

Will I get banned for boxing!?!?!

This thread has degenerated to the point it's become like two bald men fighting over a comb. -- Doc Fury

It's bonuses, not boni, you cretins.
RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#126 - 2014-12-11 15:07:13 UTC
Confirmed clone set in thera. As for the trolls on this post it doesn't get any better than this. OP Best troll of 2014 IMO.

Signatured removed, CCP Phantom
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#127 - 2014-12-11 15:12:52 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:
Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVERoll (yes, highsec).

Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet.



The best way to make a it a mos eisley of eve is to have player security force and make it NRDS. Then you keep it open and can camp the wh's and deal with reds and mess around.

But alas, won't happen. And my corp is to small to even try and do that.


There would need to be a strong incentive for a player to do so. Like, if a corp could own the station and profit off the broker fees than they would have a reason to make it a "safe" place to use as a market.
Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#128 - 2014-12-11 15:14:53 UTC
RomeStar wrote:
Confirmed clone set in thera. As for the trolls on this post it doesn't get any better than this. OP Best troll of 2014 IMO.

Seriou sly, go read the ArcheAge forums.
Posts like these might as well be legitimate.

Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai

Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!

Diana Kim > AND THIS IS WHY THE FEDERATION MUST BE DESTROYED!!
Idriane
Yalaan-Timirgor Conglomerate
#129 - 2014-12-11 15:15:23 UTC
So with the stations being so close can rvb plz move in and do this system up right?
Senyu Takashi
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#130 - 2014-12-11 16:20:02 UTC
TL:DR - Dead content where few people will stay for a few weeks before the systems population will go down to the occasional station campers and a sightseeing Rookie Ship. All of this thanks to the idiocy called "non-targeted interdicion" being allowed near stations and gates/wormholes.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#131 - 2014-12-11 16:21:13 UTC
What happened?

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#132 - 2014-12-11 16:21:51 UTC
Sol Project wrote:
Eugene Kerner wrote:
this thread therafies me.

Thera doctors who can help with that.

Can you recomend any therapists?

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Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#133 - 2014-12-11 16:23:03 UTC
I am Therad up of all these Therads.

"For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
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#134 - 2014-12-11 16:32:26 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Tear Jar wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:
Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVERoll (yes, highsec).

Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet.


It doesn't neccesarily need Concord. A few sentries blowing up dictor bubbles and hostiles at the stations would do a lot to make camping more difficult while still not making it high sec safe.


Its not lowsec either.

If you want that station camp gone you have to remove it yourself.


The incentives aren't good enough for me to bother removing it myself. I am just going to avoid the system instead.

I was thinking of ways to make the system attractive to players.
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
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#135 - 2014-12-11 16:33:55 UTC
Signal11th wrote:
Personally I think Thera will be great, it will have 3 main advantages.:

1: Some morons will go there to grief.
2: Some morons will go there because it's new.
3: Hopefully Goons will permacamp it.


Either way that's a lot of morons migrating to one system and out of the general populace.


That won't last long though.

I suspect after this all dies down Thera will be a place for PvPers(interceptors in particular) to base out of for roams into low/null sec.
Senyu Takashi
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#136 - 2014-12-11 16:37:17 UTC
Tear Jar wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Tear Jar wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:
Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVERoll (yes, highsec).

Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet.


It doesn't neccesarily need Concord. A few sentries blowing up dictor bubbles and hostiles at the stations would do a lot to make camping more difficult while still not making it high sec safe.


Its not lowsec either.

If you want that station camp gone you have to remove it yourself.


The incentives aren't good enough for me to bother removing it myself. I am just going to avoid the system instead.

I was thinking of ways to make the system attractive to players.


Exactly. Why should I bother with clearing the station camps? Its a regular WH system with stations and few more statics. Nothing more.

And if I want to participate in a lore somehow, I can do that in a Rookie Ship or in a cov ops+nullified T3.
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
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#137 - 2014-12-11 16:42:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Tear Jar
knobber Jobbler wrote:
Tear Jar wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:
Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVERoll (yes, highsec).

Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet.


It doesn't neccesarily need Concord. A few sentries blowing up dictor bubbles and hostiles at the stations would do a lot to make camping more difficult while still not making it high sec safe.


Do it yourself. Get friends, clear camps, populate station markets, profit.


I don't think its profitable enough. I mean, why would people go to Thera for their market instead of one of the high sec trade hubs? If they are using wormholes to travel already they can easily find a high sec static and go to one of the existing trade hubs much more safely.

And having players who try to guard the station is more likely to attract pirates than it is to scare them off. If pirates *know* they can go to system X and get fights they are going to constantly go to system X.

The system will be useful as a base for roaming PvP gangs, but it won't be Mos Eisley. Pirates are still better off having their alt shop in Jita for them(which is much closer to Mos Eisley, some protection, but people still get killed in Jita and its full of scammers and pirates).
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
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#138 - 2014-12-11 16:49:27 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Thera (like all of EVE) is 'pve friendly' if YOU put some thought into it. PVE in Thera will consist of organized groups that can both farm AND defend themselves.

Speaking for real PVE jocks in this game (who give no Fs about someone tryin to pvp us), please ignore the whiny "wahhh, people won't let me solo PVE in peace" loners who don't get what game they are playing.


Why would you PvE in Thera over a regular wormhole or a high sec ice belt other than to prove you can? Its clearly worse isk/hr when you factor in all the time and manpower you have to put into fighting off PvPers.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#139 - 2014-12-11 17:45:48 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

Another "agenda point" of yours.

Where did I make any assertions on the status of the players? First some presumption of NRDS, not the "hurf blurf you should not play alone" track.

Your opinions do not have to be your religion. Did you know that? Or did those military dentists work you over again?


No, I'm just trying to figure out why you think the ability to bubble = death on contact for any and everyone who wants to go in there.

Because it really doesn't.


It does....but only for bad people who have difficulty with a video game Big smile

Thera is prime emergent gameplay territory, the players will decide what it is and isn't. This is why these 'thempark' types will hate it and vilify it as 'wahhhh it's a pvp place' (you know, like the rest of EVE lol). Me, i just set my clone there lol.




Not so much that. Bombable bubble camps are fun.

It's just that when I see bubbles stacked on bubbles I get the same feeling that I get when I go into a house of a hoarder or someone who has not taken out the trash in two years.

I don't log in to feel that way. Though the thought of bombing them is hard to shake (the ones in game I mean). I giggle like Loreena Bobbit in a sausage factory and I take out my SB.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#140 - 2014-12-11 17:59:06 UTC
Joseph Penton wrote:
Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area!

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