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Mr Chili Palmer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-11-26 11:07:44 UTC
Would a gila work in lvl4's?

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Barton Breau
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2014-11-26 15:30:55 UTC
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
Would a gila work in lvl4's?


Dps and tank sure, the problem is usually some mission rats constantly switching to drones.
Barton Breau
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2014-11-26 15:51:31 UTC
Grytok wrote:
The Rattle is also cheaper than a Mach or a Marauder... All T2 bar the shield-mods you can get it for under 1.5 bil.

That's 1k DPS (Garde II + Therm/Kinetic Missiles) and 1k capstable tank against all but Amarr-factions.

Your drones can be set to Agressive and Focus Fire, so even if you get damped or jammed you don't loose all your damage.

You can switch to faction Cruise Launchers + Missiles and faction DDAs to gain another 150-200 DPS.

It's the only still available allmost AFK option, as the sentries keep shooting. Usually I kill the small stuff first at range and then go do something else, as the battleships or battlecruisers don't switch target onto the sentries.


Im looking forward to seeing this on an alod :)
M Pippin
Angels of Ptah
#24 - 2014-11-26 16:09:59 UTC
All you need is a Dominix and Drones.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#25 - 2014-11-26 16:14:14 UTC
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
Would a gila work in lvl4's?


[Gila, lvl 4 semi afk angel+serp]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

10MN Afterburner II
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Pithum C-Type Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
Pithum C-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier
Pithum C-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Auto-Targeting Light Missile I
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Auto-Targeting Light Missile I
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Auto-Targeting Light Missile I
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Auto-Targeting Light Missile I
Pithi A-Type Small Remote Shield Booster

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

Hammerhead II x2
Valkyrie II x2
Vespa II x2
Infiltrator II x2


implants =
EO-603 (+3% cap, don't need it but lets you run remote rep longer)
SM-703 (+3% shield)
EM-803 (+3% cap, same as above)
SP-903 (+3% shield recharge)
RL-1003 (+3% rate of fire)

A partial halo set in slots 1-5 helps tanking a lot as well (I use the faction shield extenders for the same reason). Keep moving and kill anything that webs.

This ismy fit for Angel and serp missions (I just change resist amps for other factions). Cap stable with the remote rep off. I launch drones, target the drones (for the remote rep), start the missiles and kick back and relax while this thing sweeps up the entire room, re-starting missile launchers or occasionally shield repping a drone (and using the repper from time to time has the added benefit of getting NPCs to switch aggro, NPCs hate ewar and remote repping).

at 700 peak dps it's not the fastest mission runner, but it is low maintenance and very relaxing lol.
Skrizzy
Superior Plystic Group
#26 - 2014-11-26 16:19:52 UTC
In Minmatar nothing beats a Mach, tested everything but Mach are the king and will warp out when the drones or the missiles are on their way to the target. In other places with serious damp or jam the fastest are 2 chars in mach. All Maruaders are to slow, but if you are soloing in places with damp or jam then its an ok alternative.
Alcaine Elias
Doomheim
#27 - 2014-12-06 13:18:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Alcaine Elias
Estella Osoka wrote:
How many threads are there on this subject?

At least one more Blink

I've been using the Caldari Navy Raven for a long time with my pure Caldari pilot. I'll probably go for the Mach on this guy.

Barton Breau wrote:
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
Would a gila work in lvl4's?


Dps and tank sure, the problem is usually some mission rats constantly switching to drones.

It's possible if you don't like using a battleship or T3 cruiser. I beleive those two options are a lot faster.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2014-12-07 23:25:26 UTC
Alcaine Elias wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
How many threads are there on this subject?

At least one more Blink

I've been using the Caldari Navy Raven for a long time with my pure Caldari pilot. I'll probably go for the Mach on this guy.

Barton Breau wrote:
Mr Chili Palmer wrote:
Would a gila work in lvl4's?


Dps and tank sure, the problem is usually some mission rats constantly switching to drones.

It's possible if you don't like using a battleship or T3 cruiser. I beleive those two options are a lot faster.


You do see people doing IVs in Tengus, Ishtars, Prophecies, Drakes, the occasional Vexor Navy and even fleets of Assault Frigates. You also hear of people running an alt in a bomber with their main in a battleships occasionally as well though that may be more for the lulz.

For solo work:
- Marauders (if looting),
- pirate BS (especially Machs, Vindis and Rattlesnakes)
- and generic T1 BS (T2 fitted non-bling generic sentry Dominix are probably the thing you see the most)

are definitely the most time efficient.

servalaan
#29 - 2014-12-11 02:47:38 UTC  |  Edited by: servalaan
If you fly Minmatar then there is only one ship, 'MAELSTROM' toting fully un-grouped T2 1400mm badboys, you'll push 850 dps @13.6k alpha, anything else is just showing off or attracting unwanted attention.

The money you save on the overpriced faction e-p33n you could use for some relatively inexpensive 62% specific resist hardeners.
These help with missions and with CPU constraints as T2 1400 Maels are tighter than a gnat's chuff on fitting.

x4 Gyro's (3 faction)
x2 Tracking computers (speed scripted)



ROCK AND ROLL !!!

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Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-12-11 04:05:18 UTC
Sentry domi, aggressive drones and afk.

Art of Explosions
Lolz Iminspace
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2014-12-11 04:51:50 UTC
For maximum fun you want a blaster Mega! Quicker than the domi too
Garrett Osinov
Doomheim
#32 - 2014-12-22 18:47:44 UTC
i was doing LVL with a Machariel (autocannons spec to lvl4, minnie BS lv5, gallente lvl4) and it was exellent. Guns could hit up to 90 k, popped frigs in 1 or 2 volley. The best part of playing with Machariel is that it goes with deadspace afterburner 600+ m/s.

For a change I tried Rattlesnake. And it is a nightmare to play with it. Worst part it goes 300 m/s, it's slow as hell. You need to babysit this Gecko, it always tries to go for the wrong target and if you use sentries, than you have to sit still and not be able to move around, because it is a pain to move back to pick them up.

Also tried Gila for lvl4. It is a nice ship, fast, agile (comparing to a BS), like Machariel with half of its DPS.
Orlacc
#33 - 2014-12-22 18:50:25 UTC
Garrett Osinov wrote:
i was doing LVL with a Machariel (autocannons spec to lvl4, minnie BS lv5, gallente lvl4) and it was exellent. Guns could hit up to 90 k, popped frigs in 1 or 2 volley. The best part of playing with Machariel is that it goes with deadspace afterburner 600+ m/s.

For a change I tried Rattlesnake. And it is a nightmare to play with it. Worst part it goes 300 m/s, it's slow as hell. You need to babysit this Gecko, it always tries to go for the wrong target and if you use sentries, than you have to sit still and not be able to move around, because it is a pain to move back to pick them up.

Also tried Gila for lvl4. It is a nice ship, fast, agile (comparing to a BS), like Machariel with half of its DPS.




All true. Orbit sentries.

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Torothin
Crimson Dawn Enterprises
#34 - 2014-12-22 21:26:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Torothin
Hi There,

I run a lot of 0.0 Arch Angel Missions. I usually dual box.

In home system:

Macharial and Ishtar. Mach is the trigger Ishtar assigns sentry drones to Mach.


Out of home system:

Dual Ishtars with T2 sentries.

The reason I choose shield Ishtars is because they're very mobile and also PvP ready in case my alliance members need some help. I would say the Ishtar is a great choice. Mach is good too. My Ishtars are all passive tanked shield fit. I will agree, the Mach makes things pretty easy. All you do is sit around 30k and go blap, blap, blap, blap, blap. You have to somewhat manage your cap with the faction shield booster but overall it's pretty easy.
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