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Thera not pve friendly!

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Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#21 - 2014-12-10 21:34:25 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
Joseph Penton wrote:
Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area!

come on, this post has troll all over it.
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Jean Luc Lemmont
Carebears on Fire
#22 - 2014-12-10 21:44:04 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Show us on the devblog where CCP said Thera would be a PvE system....





Go carebear in renter space or in highsec.. or a regular wormhole for that matter..

Wait... why am I responding to this thread?


Because you were unsuccessful at avoiding it, obviously.

Will I get banned for boxing!?!?!

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It's bonuses, not boni, you cretins.

PlayerNikita
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-12-10 21:46:12 UTC
To be honest OP makes sense, why set up stations in the first place if they will be obvious camped death traps(at least in null there are less people and big chance to just slip by), where docking is equal to suicide? Kills Lore too, lots of pirates and low-lifes camp right outside sister's stations and they do nothing. They could at least put up a sentry or two to protect their critically important research and staging bases.

(this is more of a lore post, not gameplay one, i fully understand Thera is for pvp only and its ok game mechanic, plzdonteatme)
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-12-10 21:51:00 UTC
A system with a negative security rating is not guaranteed to be safe for pve? Well, I never!
okst666
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-12-10 21:53:14 UTC
the two closeby stations remind me of an old unreal tournament map

http://files.g4tv.com/ImageDb3/289740_S/10-of-the-most-influential-fps-multiplayer-maps-ever.jpg

[X] < Nail here for new monitor

Sol Project
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#26 - 2014-12-10 21:54:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Sol Project
PlayerNikita wrote:
To be honest OP makes sense, why set up stations in the first place if they will be obvious camped death traps(at least in null there are less people and big chance to just slip by), where docking is equal to suicide? Kills Lore too, lots of pirates and low-lifes camp right outside sister's stations and they do nothing. They could at least put up a sentry or two to protect their critically important research and staging bases.

(this is more of a lore post, not gameplay one, i fully understand Thera is for pvp only and its ok game mechanic, plzdonteatme)
It also makes sense to assume that people who will camp it ...
... will be roflstomped by others who don't want that.

At least in a system with so many connections to "all over the place".

Ladies of New Eden YC 117 by Indahmawar Fazmarai

Warning: NSFW! Barely legal girls in underwear!

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#27 - 2014-12-10 22:04:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Joseph Penton wrote:
Well took a trip to Thera today and ended up jumping back to a new clone. All the structures had warp disruption fields around them so for pve is a waste of time! I understand that there is no security there but being able to put a warp disruption field around a non-player station is kinda lame. You would think RP wise the owners of the station would destroy it so their ships can get in and out. So for explorers and PVE players stay away from Thera is just another pvp area!




LOL.

CCP always like "we don't know what players will do with new content."

Then later:

"Here's new content. Hey you can have dictor bubbles in it and there will be 4 stations".


What did they think was going to happen?

So much for that idea. I won't be feeding anything expensive to these "death camps". Maybe clone upgrade costs were removed just so bittervets would give it a second thought.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Tyler Nietzsche
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-12-10 22:08:47 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
[What did they think was going to happen?

So much for that idea. I won't be feeding anything expensive to these "death camps".


With the new clone cost (0) it's up to you. But it makes Eve a "no risk" to "some risk" MMO. I wouldn't either. Perhaps it will find a following that enjoy the mechanics.

If it gets a good market, you might use it as an arena for your hard earned ISK.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#29 - 2014-12-10 22:12:46 UTC
Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVERoll (yes, highsec).

Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#30 - 2014-12-10 22:15:06 UTC
Tyler Nietzsche wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
[What did they think was going to happen?

So much for that idea. I won't be feeding anything expensive to these "death camps".


With the new clone cost (0) it's up to you. But it makes Eve a "no risk" to "some risk" MMO. I wouldn't either. Perhaps it will find a following that enjoy the mechanics.

If it gets a good market, you might use it as an arena for your hard earned ISK.



I've given lots of thought to just lining up a hangar full of fitted Kestrels and having at it for the lols.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#31 - 2014-12-10 22:16:18 UTC
So get a few guys and shoot the ship with the disruptor field. then you can pve to your hearts content. because you can't anchor bubbles there.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Phil Hinken
Doomheim
#32 - 2014-12-10 22:17:11 UTC
Somehow this is the fault of the carebears.

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#33 - 2014-12-10 22:18:04 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVERoll (yes, highsec).

Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet.



The best way to make a it a mos eisley of eve is to have player security force and make it NRDS. Then you keep it open and can camp the wh's and deal with reds and mess around.

But alas, won't happen. And my corp is to small to even try and do that.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Tyler Nietzsche
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-12-10 22:18:36 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
So get a few guys and shoot the ship with the disruptor field. then you can pve to your hearts content. because you can't anchor bubbles there.


There is no counter for 900 F1 keys.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#35 - 2014-12-10 22:21:14 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVERoll (yes, highsec).

Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet.




Long ago I fielded the idea that we should have "deep space" in every system with withering police depending on how far out you go. So in the first three to 1 to 3 AU you got space police, afterwards it takes longer to respond so at 5AU or more it can be up to a minute. Past 20 AU there is no protection and it's like nullsec.

It would have been good for Thera - some levels of protection at least to put a damper on the people with nothing to do but death camp everything all day, but in the same system allow for a free for all a usual.

I know I know.... "let the players do it". But this game suffers from YEARS of advertising the importance of ISK and attracting min-maxers to whom any and all activities that do not generate ISK are avoided like the plague. We'd need around 4 years of an ad campaign that attracts players who don't care about that sort of thing and then you'll have the idealists who see this situation as an opportunity for fun and not some incursion into their 50 gajillion ISK per day obsession.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#36 - 2014-12-10 22:21:20 UTC
Tyler Nietzsche wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
So get a few guys and shoot the ship with the disruptor field. then you can pve to your hearts content. because you can't anchor bubbles there.


There is no counter for 900 F1 keys.


901 is the counter to 900 f1 keys ;)

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#37 - 2014-12-10 22:21:30 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:
Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVERoll (yes, highsec).

Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet.



The best way to make a it a mos eisley of eve is to have player security force and make it NRDS. Then you keep it open and can camp the wh's and deal with reds and mess around.

But alas, won't happen. And my corp is to small to even try and do that.

tbh, default warpable holes (from inside and outside) might be the minimum necessary to make Thera happen.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#38 - 2014-12-10 22:27:17 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:
Everyone will forget about Thera in a week. It's an inconvenient lowsec system, basically. It requires probing, risk, and there's nothing there. It needs to be CONCORD policed to become any type of mos eisley of EVERoll (yes, highsec).

Thera is barren. Players just haven't figured it out yet.



The best way to make a it a mos eisley of eve is to have player security force and make it NRDS. Then you keep it open and can camp the wh's and deal with reds and mess around.

But alas, won't happen. And my corp is to small to even try and do that.

tbh, default warpable holes (from inside and outside) might be the minimum necessary to make Thera happen.



I will disagree. There are plenty of wh corps and even some others that might enjoy thera as a free port. if you could have a semi chance at defense. but most people will go home like in all wormholes, plenty of space but not everyone wants to be there. *shrugs*

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#39 - 2014-12-10 22:29:55 UTC
Orlacc
#40 - 2014-12-10 22:30:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Orlacc
PlayerNikita wrote:
To be honest OP makes sense, why set up stations in the first place if they will be obvious camped death traps(at least in null there are less people and big chance to just slip by), where docking is equal to suicide? Kills Lore too, lots of pirates and low-lifes camp right outside sister's stations and they do nothing. They could at least put up a sentry or two to protect their critically important research and staging bases.

(this is more of a lore post, not gameplay one, i fully understand Thera is for pvp only and its ok game mechanic, plzdonteatme)



It was stated long ago that Thera would be akin to a "Wild West/Mos Eisley" town. That's the lore.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."