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[GMVA] Rescue Operation for Thera

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Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#61 - 2014-12-10 02:18:01 UTC
Eojek wrote:
It's going to be difficult to mount a rescue operation with 2 or 3 dedicated corporations on a murderious rampage outside the stations and on any applicable wormholes.


It's not too difficult to get in and operate so long as you're careful and use the proper equipment. I've already helped several get in and am happy to help more for the sake of this humanitarian effort. Sadly I don't see a whole lot possible being done besides perhaps bringing medical supplies and food and water in. I'm happy to help provide a second set of eyes though.

-Eran
Ollie Rundle
#62 - 2014-12-10 03:23:27 UTC
With due respect to the humanitarian concerns of GMVA and many of those posting here, there's little chance that anyone or anything biological has survived if they were inside the ring of ten shattered planets. Loss of contact happened 14 days ago, coinciding with the appearance of the stellar anomaly. If they want anything from capsuleers at all SoE simply wanted us to re-establish contact by locating the system again.

Now that's been achieved, they're either mounting a covert rescue operation of immense subtlety or they've realised there's no-one left to rescue and are instead focussing efforts on salvage of damaged resources and maintaining their undamaged resources/operations within the systems.

Trying to 'rescue' individuals who are likely already two weeks deceased seems at best an exercise in futility and at worst an imminent threat to one's own material and human assets.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#63 - 2014-12-10 03:37:12 UTC
Storming stations, sending in marines, interrogating SOE personnel, bringing large combat fleets in and even talk of building capitals if it were possible.

And you people seriously wonder why the Sisters kept this system a secret?

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#64 - 2014-12-10 03:40:28 UTC
That's why they didn't tell US, but from what's been said, they so far haven't told ANYONE, and I believe that to be because they wanted to coverup the incident and hide their research efforts
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#65 - 2014-12-10 03:54:49 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:
That's why they didn't tell US, but from what's been said, they so far haven't told ANYONE, and I believe that to be because they wanted to coverup the incident and hide their research efforts

We are everyone, Mr Kraid.

We, along with baseliners, populate this universe sir. From a farmer on a planet, to a capsuleer's corporation, to the governments of Empire itself. They may not have told you, or I, or even all or any of the governments, not that we'd know this anyway if they had but really it's none of our business.

Who made you, made anyone in fact, the judge in such matters in non-sovriegn regions? If SOE wants to conduct private research endeavours it's their business. Sure, the failure of such research potentially risked the lives of many but we're still here and all official calls have been for search and rescue, not invasion and persecution.

Lot's of things happen in my hole that I keep secret too, Mr Kraid. Things that risk and cost lives. Are you going to come invade me also? Tie me to some desk and interrogate me, torture me perhaps while marines riffle through my underwear drawers?

I merely wished to point out that IGS comments regarding SOEs secrecy are only outnumbered by comments proposing violent means of extracting answers. Go figure, sir.

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Jukko Riis
Doomheim
#66 - 2014-12-10 03:57:04 UTC
Ollie Rundle wrote:
With due respect to the humanitarian concerns of GMVA and many of those posting here, there's little chance that anyone or anything biological has survived if they were inside the ring of ten shattered planets. Loss of contact happened 14 days ago, coinciding with the appearance of the stellar anomaly. If they want anything from capsuleers at all SoE simply wanted us to re-establish contact by locating the system again.



Or they wanted a few hundred capsuleers to trample over any evidence...
Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#67 - 2014-12-10 05:27:54 UTC
Mister Rundle...

Search and Recovery/Rescue is a fundamental requirement following a catastrophe of this nature. Without collection of remains or witnesses of the event, it will be impossible to verify the situation that took place here.

So, while I understand your analysis, and agree with it in principle, the priority to discover any clue, however minute, is extremely critical.

Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#68 - 2014-12-10 08:16:48 UTC
What bad habits have these nuns gotten into?


My standings with the Sisters are so high I could put my feet on Sister Alitura's desk and she would shine my shoes (before throwing me out). I live in an SoE station and have not even so much as heard a shadow of a rumor about this.

I could say I don't like this. But I've been down enough of these wormholes and back and forth through dark corners to such extent that saying anything at this point is a waste of breath.

And even for us, breath is finite.

There are strange things going on, that's certain. And someone has gone farther than they should have.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
#69 - 2014-12-10 08:38:04 UTC
Ollie Rundle wrote:
With due respect to the humanitarian concerns of GMVA and many of those posting here, there's little chance that anyone or anything biological has survived if they were inside the ring of ten shattered planets. Loss of contact happened 14 days ago, coinciding with the appearance of the stellar anomaly. If they want anything from capsuleers at all SoE simply wanted us to re-establish contact by locating the system again.

Now that's been achieved, they're either mounting a covert rescue operation of immense subtlety or they've realised there's no-one left to rescue and are instead focussing efforts on salvage of damaged resources and maintaining their undamaged resources/operations within the systems.

Trying to 'rescue' individuals who are likely already two weeks deceased seems at best an exercise in futility and at worst an imminent threat to one's own material and human assets.


I would agree with this. If we could have gotten into Thera immediately after the initial event, its possible that survivors could have been rescued from the station ruins, but given the amount of time that has passed, its unlikely anyone is still alive there.
Jade Blackwind
#70 - 2014-12-10 10:04:55 UTC
Karynn Denton wrote:
The Lakat-Hro is out there?!

Saede Riordan wrote:
Yeah it vanished with the original Seyllin event, it was assumed destroyed in the event.


Time-space can tangle in funny ways, can it? Hehe

I wonder if those experiments with the Talocan techology in Thera were the thing that ignited the Shattering and opened the wormholes back in the past. I mean, in the past, through time.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#71 - 2014-12-10 10:34:18 UTC
During my routine surveys, I stumbled upon another wormhole system that seems to have suffered a similar fate.

J001670. Has 6 planets orbiting a blue supergiant. All planets are shattered and there is a grouping of unstable wormholes and talocan and sleeper structures near the corona of the star that is extremely similar to the one in Thera. Whatever happened, may not actually be localized to Thera.

Whether or not the Sisters were the ones that triggered the cataclysm, it seems to have been able to spread between systems.
Since there are wormholes at both sites (albeit not traversable by ships), it is possible whatever cataclysm happened propagated through those wormholes.

At this time, though I have no data that would hint as to where the origin point may be, how many more (if any) systems may be involved, or if the wormholes were already there before the event or were created by the event (in fact, I have almost no details about the event at all). I do suspect that one of the systems involved may be in UUA-F4 since Caroline's Star was indicated to have coincided with the SoE losing contact with Thera.
mr ed thehouseofed
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#72 - 2014-12-10 11:22:20 UTC
some interesting pics from one of the shattered systems

http://i.imgur.com/4kBp6Ie.png

http://i.imgur.com/vrSjC8r.png

http://i.imgur.com/0DGCRnE.png

http://i.imgur.com/Q6N1wJz.png

http://i.imgur.com/1uleHEU.png

white sun is very bright , it surprised me on how bright it was

could not enter WH's in pic 1 and 2

you can not view planets in planet mode

i want a eve pinball machine...  confirming  CCP Cognac is best cognac

Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
#73 - 2014-12-10 12:51:06 UTC
mr ed thehouseofed wrote:
some interesting pics from one of the shattered systems

http://i.imgur.com/4kBp6Ie.png

http://i.imgur.com/vrSjC8r.png

http://i.imgur.com/0DGCRnE.png

http://i.imgur.com/Q6N1wJz.png

http://i.imgur.com/1uleHEU.png

white sun is very bright , it surprised me on how bright it was

could not enter WH's in pic 1 and 2

you can not view planets in planet mode



Those are the nebulas visible through the wormhole in Thera.
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#74 - 2014-12-10 12:58:39 UTC
This may be entirely coincidental, but can any ot our exploration teams confirm that there are 5 violent wormholes at the epicentre of ALL the shattered wormholes, If it is as it appears so, this number has some relevance, either in they all go to the same systems and are currently inaccessable, or is it the limit of the equipment involved? Some further investigation of this feature is recommended.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2014-12-10 13:40:46 UTC
So here's my take on the situation.

Sisters of EVE owes us a hell of a lot of answers. If Sisters of EVE asks for help, I'll provide it, regardless of whether they give us those answers, because as a Federal citizen it's my duty to assist people in need - but if I do help them, I'm damn well going to feel entitled to a little bit of illumination, whether or not it's forthcoming.

That goes for the rest of you, incidentally; help Sisters of EVE for whatever reason you feel provides you the neccessary motivation - national pride, duty to God, desire for fame, whatever - but remember that after all of this, the least the Sisters of EVE can give you in return is a little bit of clarity to ease the many mysteries we've had to endure over the past five years. You are sure as hell entitled to it.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

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Shingozu Ayogu
Seven Stars Search and Rescue
#76 - 2014-12-10 14:05:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Shingozu Ayogu
As an operative of Seven Stars Search and Rescue I'll endeavour to help anyone interested in humanitarian aid to those caught by this... event.

This should have absolute priority for now! If there are any survivors they'll need immediate help, and I can only urge those already in system to assist where they can.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#77 - 2014-12-10 16:17:05 UTC
I'm looking at the positioning if these wormhole-special rift clusters and the old saying "X Marks the spot" comes to mind.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Che Biko
Alexylva Paradox
#78 - 2014-12-10 18:39:52 UTC
Last night, I've started using the Coordination Channel for Consolidated Space Rescue Cooperation (C3SRC) in an attempt to facilitate communications between the various pilots interested in assisting. I've tried getting into contact with some of you and other potential helping hands, but at the time there was not much we could do but prepare.
I've given some more people operator acces to the 'C3SRC' channel. If anyone would also like to assist in that capacity, let me know.