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Is it just me, or do the new icons and color schemes suck?

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Templar Dane
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#41 - 2014-12-10 11:46:38 UTC
It'd be nice if we could import our own custom icons.........
Valkin Mordirc
#42 - 2014-12-10 11:47:49 UTC
I think it's just something we have to get used to. I know I'm having problems trying to find the right icon to open the market or such.

Personally I like the change, and I think I'll love once I get used to it.
#DeleteTheWeak
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#43 - 2014-12-10 11:53:01 UTC
I'll get used to this. Don't like it, but I'm running around with fatigue now. If I can deal with that, this will not stop me.

What is currently bugging me is the fact that windows/tables light up when you click them. Its distracting me and I havent found a way to get rid of it yet.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2014-12-10 12:05:06 UTC
What is the value of testing and giving feedback on SiSi? Honestly it seems to be a waste of time ...

For all the mentioned reasons the UI is a step backward in usability. I can eventually get used to it as long as the essential things in the HUD are unchanged, but there is two things that need to be fixed ASAP:

1. The highlighting of the whole window when activated has to go, this does not only distract you but also reduces the contrast of information inside the window making it much harder to identify, especially for the overview and the probe scan window. A subtle highlighting of the title bare is enough.

2. Stacking transparency is awful, as content from the headers shines through drop down menus making the entries unreadable. Setting transparency to 0 doesn't help!

I'm my own NPC alt.
Aralyn Cormallen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#45 - 2014-12-10 12:11:48 UTC
Frankly, I like it. Clean and ordered. Some say it looks like an operating system... well, whats wrong with that? For a pod pilot it is an operating system. Sure, I've got to remember the new icons, but that is a task of a few hours play, especially given a lot of the symbols actually make sense, compared to the old symbols, half of which, quite frankly were just colour blobs it was so hard to distinguish (I mean, what were the market and fitting symbols depicting? I can take an educated guess, but they were far from legible).

This week, at work, we have just updated our drafting package from nearly a decade-old version (AutoCAD for those who know it), and I'm busily in the process of relearning several hundred slightly or not-so-slightly different icons, so the dozen in the new ui is barely worthy of mention.
Estemaire Lafisques
Kriegsmarinewerft
Goonswarm Federation
#46 - 2014-12-10 12:12:20 UTC
I am end consumer, I pay money for subscription. I am not obliged go to the test server. I'm getting ready patches. I do not like the new interface.
I'm not going to pay for a game that is no longer I like
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#47 - 2014-12-10 12:20:49 UTC
Personally I like this new look a lot better than the previous one. Good job CCP!
Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes
#48 - 2014-12-10 12:20:49 UTC
Looking at a screenshot someone else posted in the official feedback thread(which was hard to find and NOT in general)
http://i.imgur.com/vPCSLoM.jpg
This brings a tear to my eye when I realize what we just lost.
Varied colors.. CONTRAST.. icons that actually tell me what each button does.
I'm sure I can figure out that the graph line is the market, and such.
In line with that, there are two medieval shield icons.. I thought about it for a minute as a test. and my best guess was:

Uh... oh yeah, the loyalty point store was the top left one wasn't it? maybe that's that one.. uh..
Cant remember the other, so no clue, need to mouse over to read the text..


Things I have trouble with(AFTER going through the trouble of seeing them clearly because they have no contrast)
Test: can YOU tell what all of the icons are without mousing over?

Two flags.
Medieval shield.
Some.. thingy.. in a circle.
A few random dots with lines between.
A box with a smaller box in it and something behind it.
The letter Z.
A star that looks made of text.
A box at a 45 degree angle.

CCP seriously, I will admit I'm no expert at design, but those things are Icons I literally have NO CLUE what they mean after minutes of staring(and the NO COLOR, NO CONTRAST bit makes staring necessary).

Do I really need to state what my opinion is at this point?
I think my utter confusion and EYE STRAIN should make it easy for you to guess what I think.

I'm quite sure that I'll "adjust" by learning what this all means.
Or get forced to learn all the shortcuts for everything.
But that's really an excuse Isn't it?
Aralyn Cormallen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#49 - 2014-12-10 12:28:13 UTC
Eraza wrote:
icons that actually tell me what each button does....

Things I have trouble with(AFTER going through the trouble of seeing them clearly because they have no contrast)
Test: can YOU tell what all of the icons are without mousing over?

....The letter Z...

...but those things are Icons I literally have NO CLUE what they mean after minutes of staring


Its kinda self-defeating when you cite as an example for an unrecognisable symbol, one that is the same symbol that it used to be (just a little decluttered). Go on, figure it out Smile.
Chirara Brazontii
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2014-12-10 12:41:13 UTC
The new UI icons are from beyond the pale !

Color schemes suck a bit also but the match to ship color is great.

And CCP if you did a UI that sucks with the idea for us to memorize all the keystokes and so we dont need an UI (manual control) please count me out of that part.
Omega Tron
Edge Dancers
Pan-Intergalatic Business Community
#51 - 2014-12-10 12:50:12 UTC
Generally speaking I don't much care what CCP changes in the game as long as it continues to be available. I adapt to whatever they choose to do. But this time with the icon change, I agree with those who do not like it. The old ones were good ones.

CCP's sand box is EVE Online.  The sand is owned by CCP.  We pay them a monthly fee to throw the sand at each other.  That is all that is here, so move along. Nothing more to be seen.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#52 - 2014-12-10 12:52:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Chribba
I spent 10 min in photoshop and managed to come up with this - http://i.imgur.com/Hgb2EYw.png

Simple and would make things easier.

/c

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Karl Jerr
Herzack Unit
#53 - 2014-12-10 13:02:48 UTC
Now that's a cool alternative Chribba. Monochromatic icons aren't user friendly, it's ergonomy 101...
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2014-12-10 13:10:22 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
I kinda don't care either way with the icons. I feel like half the time I couldn't find what I was looking for anyways. now I mostly just use the hot keys for stuff.

menu colors, eh, again hardly notice them. plus if you play with the settings they kinda seem to look the same as they used to.

why do people always use the "eh, just deal with it and use the hotkeys" thing?

why dont we just remove ALL ui and graphics from EVE, just make it dots shooting numbers at eachother, afterall, you dont need anything to LOOK nice, just use hotkeys for everything, and obviously youll be zoomed out all the time, so no sense wasting money on an art department
Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#55 - 2014-12-10 13:16:29 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I spent 10 min in photoshop and managed to come up with this - http://i.imgur.com/Hgb2EYw.png

Simple and would make things easier.

/c


As I said earlier in this thread, I'm not a visualizing type of person, but now that I've seen this, it really would make things easier Big smile Thanks, Chribba!

P.S.
Can I get into "Grrr UI" crowd now? Cool
3BEPEB
PARTIZANS
#56 - 2014-12-10 13:22:52 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I spent 10 min in photoshop and managed to come up with this - http://i.imgur.com/Hgb2EYw.png

Simple and would make things easier.

/c

It's awesome!

But I got question: Why did CCP make things harder? What was the reason of UI change? What was wrong with old UI?
Stupid changes that does not make any sence in every patch and NO STATIONS, CCP does not keep promises and people are leaving Eve. UI is everything, it's a part of gameplay, not The Grafics.

It's one of CCP's social experiments I guess, they want to know how many more players can leave Eve. Great Job CCP!

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Leannor
State War Academy
Caldari State
#57 - 2014-12-10 13:22:56 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
I think they're too flat and simplified.

Now if they could make them faux-3D floating holographic glowing thingies, I'd be happy. They're just lacking dimension and awesome.



totally. A backward move in graphics. I wonder what chump thought it. Maybe it's to reduce server load ...

"Lykouleon wrote:

STOP TOUCHING ICONIC SHIP PARTS"
Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes
#58 - 2014-12-10 13:31:36 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I spent 10 min in photoshop and managed to come up with this - http://i.imgur.com/Hgb2EYw.png

Simple and would make things easier.

/c


Man I could just hug you, this is a LOT better, and still keeps in CCPs "simpler" theme
can we petition to have this as the current, or at least an option?
Ecks Khan
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2014-12-10 13:35:37 UTC
Tre Telos wrote:
I really hate the new icons. The old icons were meaningful and visually attractive. The new icons are meaningful, but visually SUCK! No color, and no 3D effect. I suppose I can get used to them, but EVE surely uglified itself in this update.

The same for the color schemes. The color just distract from the menus where they appear. The UI is really ugly now. I will continue to use them, but they are not ascetically pleasing. This update was a step backwards for the UI.


no, it's not just you, it's ugly AND useless. This is not just us having a reaction to change, it's us saying that we actually don't like it like this.

We can and will get used to it, but it smacks of the bad old days of CCP not listening to feed back because we told them all this on the test server and test server forum section.
Jade Blackwind
#60 - 2014-12-10 13:36:48 UTC
Grr UI :( Now I have to rely on tooltips and memories of what was where to deal with the new icons on the neocom bar.

While getting rid of the bitmap icons in favor of the vectorized scalable ones surely has it technical benefits, the new UI is just pain-inducing. It is even LESS user friendly than the old one was.

Most people will stop whining and get over it after a time, though, so I have no doubt that those beautiful designs are in EVE to stay for a few years at least :\