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Dev Blog - A new look for EVE’s UI – feedback needed!

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Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#581 - 2014-12-09 12:11:09 UTC
Now that we're live (and tthere are 2 threads) I need to cross post this somewhat against my will:

Setting Dark Matter and then browsing the wallet; contrast on the red and green text compared to the dark background is killing my eyes. This wasn't an issue on the test client with same settings, but somehow you managed to boost the contrast here.

Can we get the same light grey background when we activate the window like most of the windows, especially chat, do now (outside of selected item)?
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#582 - 2014-12-09 12:13:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6637
oh wow. I can't add the contracts button to Neocom?

wat. lol. dammit it wasn't supposed to be me

disregard. tala marie gave me a tip to press F10 twice then try adding it again. worked.

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Captain Sam Aideron
BiotSavart
#583 - 2014-12-09 12:20:03 UTC
CCP Nullarbor wrote:
Vigilanta wrote:
looks cool, but one question. If we prefer the old UI, will we be able to choose to use the old one instead? I remind you of like every other time we have been forced in to the mandatory upgrade and what has resulted.


You can turn post-processing down which makes it closer to the current UI but otherwise, no.



Why would CCP NOT include backwards-compatibility for those that prefer the previous HUD? Being an engineer myself, I can't understand why CCP would violate one of the basic (cardinal) rules of product improvement...
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#584 - 2014-12-09 12:23:36 UTC
they're getting better about it. at least they bother to call features "tests" rather than "trial." they seem somewhat aware that people dislike the thought of something being forced on them.

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Serenit Adoulin
Stille Gewalt
#585 - 2014-12-09 12:29:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Serenit Adoulin
PLEASE CCP
Make the coloring for the Ui avalable in the Settings to be enabled again.
As a player for years I am perfectly used to the colored Icons and find the new all grey simbols to be rather dull.
It worked for the new notification system as well right ?

EDIT: come one please
Jukko Riis
Doomheim
#586 - 2014-12-09 12:44:07 UTC
Serenit Adoulin wrote:
PLEASE CCP
Make the coloring for the Ui avalable in the Settings to be enabled again.
As a player for years I am perfectly used to the colored Icons and find the new all grey simbols to be rather dull.
It worked for the new notification system as well right ?



Yes. The old UI looked a LOT better, especially for station interface!

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Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#587 - 2014-12-09 12:52:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Gregor Parud
I like the overall UI change, it's funky and really really nice. However, some of the icons (like in station) are a bit bland and/or the depictions are a bit... farfetched. The icons result in the "it makes sense if you knew it beforehand but god help you if you don't, you'll be lost for hours" which I thought we were trying to move away from.

Some of them do need a rethink it both depiction as clarity, perhaps even size. If you can't find&click a button without having to fully focus your attention on it, to figure out which one you should use, then it needs a rethink.
Serenit Adoulin
Stille Gewalt
#588 - 2014-12-09 15:07:40 UTC
Please do a bit of tuning work on the colors.

It has improved with a massive step from the beta look on the testserver (golden deimos)

But still there are some iritating things in my opinion that the comunity would benefit from if they were beeing resolved.

Tech 1:
-t1 amarrs - they look great no coment on that (jeay shiney)
-t1 minmatar - from what i saw so far they lost the rusty look they had before completely, sad thing cuz we love to trus in rust
-t1 caldari - look like made of pure steel which is epic
-t1 gallente - they look more like made of a stone and steal mix wich is epic because the finally got a good coloring. but they still seem the shine too much

Pirate faction:
- Angel - damn they look horrible (at least my cynabal does)
- Sansha - holly they look good now. Phantasm PVP incomming
- Serpentis- Ouch the older black beast they used to be were much cooler
- Mordus - they look really nice and kind of a bit of a mix out of caldari and gallente (which they are so thats good)
- Blood Raiders - no Big difference in color appearance. but the edges seem to be drawn sharper which is awsome. (making them seem harder)
- SOE - raw! like amarr these ships benefit almost the most of all ships form the update
- Guristas - like Blood Raiders sharper edges, nice over all

Faction :

All factions look good (even minmtar because of camoflage instead of rust)

I would suggest thought to look at the caldari navy ships again. they look kind of dull compared to the rest. (and their t1 equivalent)

T2
Gallente: look both great
Amarr: look great as well, even tho the khanid ships seem to have the same problem like the t1 gallente with too hard edges because of too much light on them.
Caldari: even if Lai Dai ships seem to be dull (Cerberus for example) the overall textures seem to be all right. Ishukone looks pretty nice
Minmatar: thukker mix looks nice and especially the boundless ships are totally awsome.

For the sake of completion : T3s (the hulls look kinda wierd cuz t3 but I gona rate only the colors for now)

Gallente: kept the standart gallente colors but got the new shaders which gives a nice mix (not as bright as they used to be imo)
Amarr: no comments on that needed. Amarr looks epic now.
Minmatar: well as allways no rust. but pretty good (accurate ) shadering besides from that
Caldari: God this one looks good !

These are my impressions for now. Of course thats only my personal opinion and I hope to be helpfull with my perspective for CCPs developers with that post.
However feel free to comment if you feel that I missed something or if you are of other opinion about the appearance of certain colors.
-Serenit
Ina-Isabell Krupp
Krupp Heavy Industries
#589 - 2014-12-09 15:11:25 UTC
New UI looks nice, and I can understand that it is easier to work on graphics than on content...

BUT!!!

If you make such a change, please give us a ling where we can learn how to adapt and individualize the GUI.

One of the things I liked best in EVE is (was) the fact that one could customize his GUI with a lot of liberties.

Now I do not even find the buttons to change the color themes, let alone how to change one single color.

I am not saying that change is bad, but please give us a little bit more information on how to use these changes...

Seriously, I do not like the preset colors, I had an individual color scheme that I really liked with gray blue colors, similar to the actual caldari scheme, but now I have to deal with presets that I do not really like....


So, wher can I change the colors??? Guide needed.... pls...
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#590 - 2014-12-09 15:26:17 UTC
I try not to be a no change guy...but this new UI is a miss. Everything is washed out regardless of which one I choose. Inactive chat tabs are far too faint in the lettering. All the NEOCON buttons are a mess as they aren't really distinguishable with no coloring. I am not sure who thought this was an advancement but it just makes EVE look bland.

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Jack Mancetti
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#591 - 2014-12-09 15:44:06 UTC
Horrible,no information content,no customization
in one word . . FAIL
If I did that as gfx worker, I'd be given my marching orders.
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#592 - 2014-12-09 16:55:13 UTC
I think the new UI changes are fine -- not a big deal either way, but they add some color and customization. The blur doesn't seem to work in space as it wipes out the color of items behind the window. New icons are nice.

In the station if I overlap windows it can make it hard to read as the bottom text comes through.

Would be nice to make a 'blur - in station only' option.


Showing damage of drones in bay is Awesome!!
Pol69
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#593 - 2014-12-09 17:21:15 UTC
After 5 minutes of stay in EVE at me the head ached. Your new interface purposefully harms to sight! RETURN the OLD INTERFACE!
Nolan Kotulan
Nova Tabula Rasa
#594 - 2014-12-09 17:43:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Nolan Kotulan

  • Remove these damn corner brackets, I beg you, again and again and again...
  • Give us the option to disable dynamic adaptative window transparency...
  • The new character selection screen is ugly (but it doesn't really matter)...


This new UI is a good thing finally, and you improved it well since first release on SiSi, so nice work!

But, please:
Remove these damn corner brackets, I beg you, again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again!!!

Per aspera ad astra
R17a
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
#595 - 2014-12-09 18:22:23 UTC
******* CCP! RETURN PLS BACK OLD INTERFACE!
New UI it's wery ******* CRAP!
Sadew42
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#596 - 2014-12-09 18:27:04 UTC
-NEOCOM and Other Icons

While the uniformity seems nice, it causes more trouble than it's worth by far. It takes significantly more effort to distinguish icons from each other, and in the five minutes I played before having to go to work I misclicked at least as many times. Please bring back the old NEOCOM icons, or give us an option for that, or at the very least color the icons.

-Window Transparaency

While it was very jarring at first, this change wasn't as bad as I expected it to be and was very good (especially on a darker theme than Caldari). While I plan on making use of it, I do feel that people who are doing multiple-window heavy tasks would appreciate being able to set a more solid background without reducing post-processing, and I would like for the option of a kind of reverse "pin" so that I can set a window as always solid, like when clicking on it. This way having multiple chat channels open is made much easier, because with the current settings it is difficult to read corp chat and intel at the same time. Overall, this was a positive change.

tl;dr

Window transparency is fine, could be tweaked. Icons are bad, need to be reverted or at least colored.
Riele Sancel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#597 - 2014-12-09 19:46:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Riele Sancel
I just started this game a few days ago and gotta say I love it so far. The one thing I don't like is that the Icons, which were much easier to distinguish from each other, were replaced. Now instead of colorful Icons there are drab and boring icons. Is there a way to revert the Icons back? If not, I would definitely like to see the old icons back.
John Lawyer
Doomheim
#598 - 2014-12-09 21:41:34 UTC
I played EVE with my own customized colour scheme for years (it was in red colours - similar to Blood Raiders or Nebula).
Thing is I had windows background colour red too - now I can only have tabs and buttons in red colour.
But window background is BLACK - which is bad for me - I want it RED.
So, my proposition - to provide customization tools for UI (colour aspect) - previous flexibility was OK.
Thanks!

P.S.: and btw, these corner brackets - why? what is the purpose of them? they are quite annoying as for me.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#599 - 2014-12-10 00:22:48 UTC
Dear CCP,

I love you guys but the dynamic window brightness idea seemed cool (even to me) but ultimately failed.


Everyone I spoke to either:

- Doesn't even notice it (I envy them)

- Hates it dearly (like me, because it's distracting, it's useful maybe 5% of the time if you're in space, useless and annoying the other 95%, 100% useless imho if you're docked)


So please just take away a feature that nobody seems to like and many absolutely hate.


At the very least, make it opt in.

Please.

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Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
Citizen's Star Republic
#600 - 2014-12-10 00:27:07 UTC
I have a question.....

Is this a PC game or a freaking Xbox/Playstation Game?????

Seriously CCP, this UI looks like crap.....some of it is good but the pasted boring crap icons is rubbish.

Also what happened to the idea we could customize our screens for color layouts?

Its stupid for removal of at leas two items imo in particular.....and it is IRESPONSIBLE.

If i wanted to play a consol game with cheap icons and lack of graphic modulation i would go buy a console system to play with and be bored playing those games.