EVE General Discussion

As I said, mining. I had rorq booster (mostly set in a safe spot and leave to boost), a dedicated hauler toon for can mining and a miner using selective broadcasting to repeat to the other miners. Basically, 3 clients to monitor (1 of which was largely set and forget) so actually 2 clients that required a reasonable amount of input/monitoring... which is what I've ended up with after streamlining my accounts.

I can use vfx and there are a few uses for it that I may employ, but when it comes for using it for the mini mining fleet I was running, I simply don't have the dexterity to manage the accounts that I had subbed in the way I could with selective broadcasting. Not all of us are blessed enough to be free of medical conditions.

It's kind of a moot point anyway now as I've already made my decision and streamlined my accounts down to what I can manage without broadcasting. My post was just an acknowledgement/thank you to the customer support staff who aided me and heads up to let anyone in a similar position to myself know that CCP are willing to be flexible and helpful.

Perhaps rather than trying to insinuate anything, you could just accept the post for what it was?

Thanks. ;)

CCP has been good enough to give us many official language forums. Russian, German, French and Japanese for example.

But what would really clean this place up is if they made an official 'Broken English' forum to move stuff like this to.

Mr Epeen

Yeah finally.

ISBoxer would never have been allowed according to the EULA.

But ! We know some people will get a free ban because the dectection is not perfect.
And sadly GMs don't care about what they do, fair or not.

After investigations, we can say they also ban players who play normally and they don't care about the 2 strike policy: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/begun-the-bot-war-has/ and allow themselves to ban for life.


But like in real life, justice allow some collateral damages. Nothing personal.

"You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play"

ISBoxer is a third-party software used for facilitate stuff's acquisition. It's not a normal gameplay than "just an human" multiboxer without any program (switching windows or using several computers, all manually).

Read the OP. Look at CCP randoms information graphic. The only thing being banned is input broadcasting for in-game actions. Using ISBoxer is allowed, Using ISBoxers window and hardware management is allowed, using round robin/VFX (seems to be) allowed, even using broadcasting to log in and set up client settings is allowed. This has all been said multiple times.

Strictly speaking, using the part of the EULA you have quoted above, ELinor, EFT, jeveassets, eve-mentant, eve-central, eve-marketdata, etc - and even marketing spreadsheets - are against the EULA as they "facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play".

So yeah. Don't get yourself over excited without fact checking first.

Stop fogging the issue again...since when has eve-central let you control a multitude of logged on clients via one click?

I know what he meant, everyone reading this knows what he meant.

You can keep up the belligerent argumentative attitude for as long as you want, this has been coming for a long time.

Over 2 years ago I spoke about this very problem to John Lander in Newcastle, CCP were watching then how it was going to go...now they've seen and they've acted.

The only thing wrong as far as i'm concerned is they should ban it utterly and completely, and every similar programme.

CCP has stated that some of there other programs are in violation of the eula in terms of cachescraping but they wouldn't enforce it.

All this move did was clarifying parts of there eula and tell people that they will be enforcing part of it to cut back on the tears when people get banned.

Hi there,

I was directed to this thread by a GM when I petitioned to ask the following question--can one of the GMs or devs clarify this for me?

Back in 2010 GM Lelouch posted: "'macros' which allow you to group different commands into one keypress are allowed. For example, setting your G1 key to press F1, F2, F3 and so on for you with one key press is allowed (although this specific command is not as useful as it was before now that we have weapon grouping)."

source: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1291641&page=10#274

I would like clarification on whether this ruling still stands. Specifically, is it still allowable to use a keyboard macro to activate multiple modules (within a single client) simultaneously: for example, to activate a set of hardeners, reps (remote or local), smartbombs, etc., since these modules cannot be grouped?

Please note that I am referring to actions that affect only one client. This is not a multiboxing use-case.

Thanks!

WEll no, I'd argue it's further form clarification now than before. Before this was explicitly allowed, as was a host of other methods of using programs to gain items quicker. Now, a single feature has been banned, yet the rest of the program and all of the other programs are still fine.

At least before they weren't enforcing that at all. Now they are partially enforcing it.

You're unlikely to get an official response as they seem to be done with this thread, but it would seem according to their rules in this thread so far that it would be fine. Use with caution though, as you could still be banned without warning if they think you're doing anything wrong.

Remember the most important thing. There's always Elite: Dangerous.

So did I understand correctly:

Question : Someone is allowed to Boxing as individual use, but there should not be automatic functions. ???

- What if we see someone in the game using IS-Boxer with automation , How could we report him. More interestingly, which character should we supposed to report. -- > I have personally seen a guy boxing 49 accounts simultaneously to dig and clear up a ice belt as others were just looking for 1 or 2 circle to finish. It is utterly unfair for the others. Moreover, I saw this *** on EVE-Bazaar to sell these accounts as "mining Accounts" after 4-5 Months as perfect starting accounts with 5B (Of course, I do not tell you the name , all I can say is that he was one of this typical Rule-Bending-Russian-Guys)

Currently my ALT-Char was bumped in 0.0 sec to a multi-Boxing guy who shoot in same time and cleared up every member of my gank in single-handedly with max. 20M cheap ships. I am completely against this kind of action, but on the contrary I am not doing that in the game. My purpose is controlling different chars in same time in different grids. Am I still allowed to use that even though it is called Boxing? Should I have to drop it or what? I do not want surprising ban after Jan 1, 2015.

My personal Experience : I use IS-Boxer for doing jobs separately on 2 other accounts to follow and judge the situation instead automation ( Instead of ALT+TAB combination between windows). It is practical. My Q. is : Should I stop doing this too or am I allowed to using on? How would you plan to distinguish the guys like me and the guys like these 2 examples?????



Thank you for your time

E.