Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It saddens me that (correct me if I'm wrong) AWOX mechanics are getting pulled from the game. I think that the constant threat of intruders into a HS indy corp (like mine) made things more interesting. However if it has to go, I'd provide this as an alternative.

Allow CEO's to toggle whether or not there are Concord reprisals within their corporation. This would be tied to a 24 hour timer so that evil CEO's can't surprise members and reverse AWOX them. However, allowing the option to turn off the concord response allows HS corps to practice PVP amongst themselves which would be fantastic for groups like RVB, or anyone who likes to mix it up within their own corp for whatever reason.

Yeah, I don't know what makes me think this, but I'm pretty sure no CEO would turn on AWOXing for their corp, no matter how evil they are.

Even the most elite of elite don't like getting blown up when they can't fight back(mining as an example).... Don't let them try to tell you otherwise..

Well when they remove awoxing it will just cease to be a thing I will care about.

Because I won't be playing eve as of that moment.

Just saying.

Well, my idea isn't for a feature to turn off AWOXing. I'm personally a fan of AWOXing. However my understanding is that shutting off AWOXing is in the pipes. I'd just like to preserve the ability to fight and train within my corp without opening 50 duels.

Given reverse awoxing recruitment scams exist whereby CEO's invite people into the corp so they can gank them...... Pretty sure some would.
And those are typically the scummiest of awox'ers as most of their victims are newer players who don't know any better.

Frankly, the mechanic is outdated and should be removed entirely. You can still pull off cunning ganks by talking them into a duel, or going suspect, or going to low sec with you or giving you their ship to haul in your bowhead, or or or......
The removal of inside corp concord free aggression is not the end of Awoxing basically.
It's only the removal of a poor mechanic that is inconsistent with the rest of EVE's rules. Complexity is not always good. And this is bad complexity.

I'm 99% sure that awoxing isn't being removed from the game though a source wouldn't go amiss if you've read it somewhere but if they did remove it from the game then the only thing that would replace it would be suicide ganking.

One would think.

If you read the CSM minutes it was felt that the mechanic is "counter-intuitive" and somehow hurts new players. I see no reason why this arbitrary mechanic is any more confusing than the rest of the highsec aggression mechanics, and it serves a useful purpose in training and sparring that cannot be replaced easily by the current duel mechanic. Further, awoxing is only a problem for established players with assets running the corporation, not a new player who doesn't even know what the aggression mechanics are, nor have any assets of note to lose, so I don't see this having any effect on "keeping" new players.

Still, they said they wanted to change it by "the end of the year" and it appears to not be in Rhea so perhaps cooler heads have prevailed and have noticed that there is minimal benefit to this change at a significant cost to current gameplay. Maybe it won't happen at all.

I'd have to be wary of that going live, i'd hate to get slapped by concord just for webslinging a heavy ship.

I vote we keep the AWOXing mechanic and continue to allow carebears to join NPC corps. With high tax rates.

You are spot on that this affects balancing for organisations like RvB. We will quite often share pilots when arranging fights, we quite often hold FFA's and the idea of opening and maintaining 50 or 60 duels to be able to run an FFA makes me shudder.

Even so i still think that to make the newbro experience better that something has to change. Joining a corp and then having all your worldly stuff exploded because of an un-intuitive mechanic isnt really cool.

The idea of making this a selectable corp option to me has appeal, as long as its something that you can filter in the corp search when looking for corps to apply to. If you change this it takes 24 hours to take effect and you get an eve mail letting you know its been changed (on or off).

This way its a choice, players can still screw up by not filtering in corp PvP flagged organisations, they can join and have it changed while they are away and not read mails... there is scope for mistakes to be made without it being a complete turkey shoot.